When the Honourable the de facto Minister of Justice said that if I had "proof of (Justice Ian) Chin's alleged misconduct and report the matter to the police or the Chief Justice" it became clear that the honourable and learned de facto Minister had not bothered to study the matter concerned. He was happy to comment and dismiss a complaint against the judge based on what he read (incorrectly) in the Press.
The report to the police had already been made by the people aggrieved by (Justice Ian) Chin's biased judgement and it had been extended to the Chief Justice, the former Minister in the Prime Minister's Department and to the Prime Minister himself. Receiving no response the complainants had extended it to the Human Rights Commission (Suhakam) as well. It is this report that the Government or its agencies should take action on. It details clearly the unethical behaviour of Chin.
I heard about the report from a relative of the people who made the charge after Chin made his "explosive revelation". The complete set of the report and related papers were sent to me. I also received the same report from lawyers involved in the case after Chin's revelation.
The report to the police had already been made by the people aggrieved by (Justice Ian) Chin's biased judgement and it had been extended to the Chief Justice, the former Minister in the Prime Minister's Department and to the Prime Minister himself. Receiving no response the complainants had extended it to the Human Rights Commission (Suhakam) as well. It is this report that the Government or its agencies should take action on. It details clearly the unethical behaviour of Chin.
I heard about the report from a relative of the people who made the charge after Chin made his "explosive revelation". The complete set of the report and related papers were sent to me. I also received the same report from lawyers involved in the case after Chin's revelation.
I mentioned the police report without elaborating on it in my rebuttal because I needed time to study it.
In his statement from the safety of his court on June 24th, 2008 Chin said, "Dr Mahathir by waving the supposed police report the way he did lent support to the generally held view that this Prime Minister kept a docket on everyone useful but with a skeleton in their cupboard so that he can manipulate them on pain of disclosing the skeleton. I thought only the STASI of the then Communist East Germany do such a thing but then it was done for the benefit of the State not for an individual. In my view he is trying to exploit the general believe to wave that supposed police report to get the public to believe that I have committed something unlawful which he is privy to and which the public is not unaware (?) so that my integrity could be put under suspicion to make what I have revealed unbelievable. Let me declare to the public that I am as clean as a whistle and my life is an open book". (From notes of Proceedings - Special Mention of Case June 24th, 2008)
In the same notes he stated "I have prepared in advance what I have to say today and had mailed copies of the same to the lawyers of the parties before today in case I meet with an accidental death and both counsels have agreed in the event of that happening, the statement I had sent them would be regarded as having been pronounced in court".
It sounds very much that Chin was afraid of being killed (by accident). Readers can make their own interpretation of what he implied. His statement would be his final word on the matter (before he dies).
Yet in the court of June 24th he said (vide proceedings of court) "I have since amended certain parts of that statement and counsel should delete the copy I had sent them and the one that counts is the one appearing in the following pages".
It is obvious that he did not think carefully about what he wanted to say and found it necessary to amend a statement which the court would have accepted as his final statement to the court had he accidentally died. Can such a sloppy judge be believed?
Be that as it may we must accept that the following record of proceedings on June 24th on his statement truly record what he said in court as different from his written statement to the counsels.
The most significant element in his statement of June 9th 2008 in open court is that regarding my alleged threat against judges.
Whereas that statement the record stated, "The then Prime Minister went there (to the Judges Conference) to issue a thinly veiled threat to remove judges by referring to the tribunal that was set up before and stating that though it may be difficult to do so it was still done", yet in his statement on June 24th he said (as recorded in the proceedings of June 15th);
"Now to the matter of the veiled threat. Dr Mahathir did not say that he will remove judges by referring to tribunal in those express words. You must know what went on before to appreciate what message he was attempting to convey in his devious way and to look at the subsequent events to put what he had said in the right perspective." This sentence again displays Chin's failure to find the words to prove that there was a threat. He finally resorted to saying that the Prime Minister uttered the veiled threat by "dropping words to that effect here and there". What words which "when dropped here and there" becomes a veiled threat?
He was so positive about the veiled threat on June 9th but on June 24th he seems to be unable to find words to show that there was a "veiled threat". Can people trust a judge who makes assumptions based on "words here and there"?
Surely if I made a veiled threat, other judges must have heard it and as one former judge said, "he would be shocked and would remember it". But no one else seems to remember it. Chin ranted against the judge who denied there was a threat, claiming he knows who the judge was and abusing him. Again he makes conclusion based on suspicion.
Accusing me of having a docket on everyone so that I can manipulate them is fantasy of the highest order. Certainly I did not have a docket on him. What I got was given to me after his statement on June 9, 2008.
He has the Government and the Honourable the de facto Minister of Justice on his side. They should be able to prove that I had this "docket" or that I had used police report to threaten anyone. Show me one case.
In the case of Anwar, the police reported to me about his bad morals and after consulting my colleagues and the UMNO Supreme Council, I took action to remove him. I did not keep these reports in order to threaten him.
Now of course he has another police report and it would be interesting to see how Chin's friends in the Government will deal with it.
In any case Chin should be happy that the Honourable the de facto Minister of Justice has decided (not the Attorney General whose job it is to examine the case) not to set up a tribunal or to do anything.
Chin appears to be unsparing in bad-mouthing other people from the safety of his court. He called me a "devil incarnate" and suggested that I behave like the East German Secret Police (STASI).
I wonder what the legal profession thinks about judges calling people names in their courts, people who are not even connected with the case being heard, and certainly people who had never been given a chance to be heard.
If this is the new standard then what people say about the deterioration of the judiciary must be true.
I have no intention to make any police report on the misbehaviour of Judge Ian Chin. It would be an exercise in futility under present conditions.
I leave it to the public to judge. If anyone had had a police report waved in his face during the 22 years I was Prime Minister, please make a police report.
If the police have evidence of a docket which I kept, please show evidence of this.
I pity the people who have to be tried by Chin. His fertile mind can conjure evidence where there is none, and he can pass sentence based on this. It is Chin's Justice.
In his statement from the safety of his court on June 24th, 2008 Chin said, "Dr Mahathir by waving the supposed police report the way he did lent support to the generally held view that this Prime Minister kept a docket on everyone useful but with a skeleton in their cupboard so that he can manipulate them on pain of disclosing the skeleton. I thought only the STASI of the then Communist East Germany do such a thing but then it was done for the benefit of the State not for an individual. In my view he is trying to exploit the general believe to wave that supposed police report to get the public to believe that I have committed something unlawful which he is privy to and which the public is not unaware (?) so that my integrity could be put under suspicion to make what I have revealed unbelievable. Let me declare to the public that I am as clean as a whistle and my life is an open book". (From notes of Proceedings - Special Mention of Case June 24th, 2008)
In the same notes he stated "I have prepared in advance what I have to say today and had mailed copies of the same to the lawyers of the parties before today in case I meet with an accidental death and both counsels have agreed in the event of that happening, the statement I had sent them would be regarded as having been pronounced in court".
It sounds very much that Chin was afraid of being killed (by accident). Readers can make their own interpretation of what he implied. His statement would be his final word on the matter (before he dies).
Yet in the court of June 24th he said (vide proceedings of court) "I have since amended certain parts of that statement and counsel should delete the copy I had sent them and the one that counts is the one appearing in the following pages".
It is obvious that he did not think carefully about what he wanted to say and found it necessary to amend a statement which the court would have accepted as his final statement to the court had he accidentally died. Can such a sloppy judge be believed?
Be that as it may we must accept that the following record of proceedings on June 24th on his statement truly record what he said in court as different from his written statement to the counsels.
The most significant element in his statement of June 9th 2008 in open court is that regarding my alleged threat against judges.
Whereas that statement the record stated, "The then Prime Minister went there (to the Judges Conference) to issue a thinly veiled threat to remove judges by referring to the tribunal that was set up before and stating that though it may be difficult to do so it was still done", yet in his statement on June 24th he said (as recorded in the proceedings of June 15th);
"Now to the matter of the veiled threat. Dr Mahathir did not say that he will remove judges by referring to tribunal in those express words. You must know what went on before to appreciate what message he was attempting to convey in his devious way and to look at the subsequent events to put what he had said in the right perspective." This sentence again displays Chin's failure to find the words to prove that there was a threat. He finally resorted to saying that the Prime Minister uttered the veiled threat by "dropping words to that effect here and there". What words which "when dropped here and there" becomes a veiled threat?
He was so positive about the veiled threat on June 9th but on June 24th he seems to be unable to find words to show that there was a "veiled threat". Can people trust a judge who makes assumptions based on "words here and there"?
Surely if I made a veiled threat, other judges must have heard it and as one former judge said, "he would be shocked and would remember it". But no one else seems to remember it. Chin ranted against the judge who denied there was a threat, claiming he knows who the judge was and abusing him. Again he makes conclusion based on suspicion.
Accusing me of having a docket on everyone so that I can manipulate them is fantasy of the highest order. Certainly I did not have a docket on him. What I got was given to me after his statement on June 9, 2008.
He has the Government and the Honourable the de facto Minister of Justice on his side. They should be able to prove that I had this "docket" or that I had used police report to threaten anyone. Show me one case.
In the case of Anwar, the police reported to me about his bad morals and after consulting my colleagues and the UMNO Supreme Council, I took action to remove him. I did not keep these reports in order to threaten him.
Now of course he has another police report and it would be interesting to see how Chin's friends in the Government will deal with it.
In any case Chin should be happy that the Honourable the de facto Minister of Justice has decided (not the Attorney General whose job it is to examine the case) not to set up a tribunal or to do anything.
Chin appears to be unsparing in bad-mouthing other people from the safety of his court. He called me a "devil incarnate" and suggested that I behave like the East German Secret Police (STASI).
I wonder what the legal profession thinks about judges calling people names in their courts, people who are not even connected with the case being heard, and certainly people who had never been given a chance to be heard.
If this is the new standard then what people say about the deterioration of the judiciary must be true.
I have no intention to make any police report on the misbehaviour of Judge Ian Chin. It would be an exercise in futility under present conditions.
I leave it to the public to judge. If anyone had had a police report waved in his face during the 22 years I was Prime Minister, please make a police report.
If the police have evidence of a docket which I kept, please show evidence of this.
I pity the people who have to be tried by Chin. His fertile mind can conjure evidence where there is none, and he can pass sentence based on this. It is Chin's Justice.
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Teruk juga ada judges macam tu.. kalau benarlah yang Tun cakap tu...
Pak Lah
Sila letak jawatan
Kempen PUTIH telah bermula ...
Yes sir...another brilliant statement from you...Eat ur heart out Ian Chin and Zahid or whoever ur name is,,i barely cant remember...I salute u sir for this, and btw THANK YOU 4 da Excellence 22 years you have given us...
May ur life and ur family will always been blessed...
Perjuangan yg belum selesai....Reveal everythngs Tun...We are always in your side..You are my inspiration...
Just another example of the lousiness of this minister. I have always had a certain dislike for lawyers - took me 11 months to settle a house purchase, costing me almost RM12000 in penalty. When he was made the minister, I thought the PM made a big mistake - surely there are retired judges who are more deserving of the post, but then again there is Justice Chin.
As'kum
Yang Amat Berbahgia Tun, sehat-sehat hendaknya.
Thy are just happy to see u walk into the court.
That will be the day.
Then it will be world news.
And Marina supported it by agreeing with what ever Karpal Sigh said on the subject.
Its all a trap. Watch out !!!!!
Fr Halem
Bangunan Md Din
Assalamualaikum Tun,
I think it is true that some of our judges doesn't behave as what they are suppose to behave. They say thing which is not necessary or related to their case in the court.
I feel the Chief Justice as the leader of all the judges in the country should do something about it. The fish rots start from the head.
Thank you.
Assalamualaikum Ayahanda Tun....
KAMI TETAP MEMPERCAYAI PERJUANGAN MURNI MU.
TERUSKAN BERJUANG HINGGA KE AKHIR HAYAT DEMI AGAMA, BANGSA DAN NEGARA.
AMIN.
TUN,
Itu lah kalau Menteri itu mempunyai kepentingan diri.
Apa yang di lakukan demi kepentingan Pak Lah. Sungguh tidak adil Menteri Kehakiman ini.
Al Maklumlah, Jawatan menteri FREE. Dah lah TAK BERTANDING DALAM PR12 kelmarin, bekas pesalah politik wang pulak tu.... Bila dapat jawatan menteri jadi macam KERA dapat bunga.
Semu ini, Sengaja Pak Lah lakukan biar nampak pemimpin yang ada ini BULLSHIT semua.
salam perjuangan: KIBARKAN BENDERA DAN PAKAI RIBBON PUTIH MULAI HARI INI>
M.Amirul
TUN,
PERSOALANNYA PATUTKAH HAKIM SEBEGINI?
BERKARIER DI NEGARA TERCINTA.
PATUTKAH MENTERI KEHAKIMAN YANG TAK ADAIL DAN BEKAS PERASUAH POLITIK WANG MENJADI MENTERI?
FIKIR FIKIRKAN ....
KIBARKAN BENDERA PUTIH DAN PAKAI RIBBON PUTIH SEBAGAI BANTAHAN.
SALAM
m,aMIRUL
Salam Tun
Saya harap Tun dapat menulis dengan banyak lagi.
Idea-idea Tun amat berguna untuk kami rakyat Malaysia.
Semoga Tun sihat selalu.
ASSALAMUALAIKUM AYAHANDA TUN DR MAHATHIR DAN SEKELUARGA
di harap semuanya sihat walafiat.
saya setuju benar dengan pendapat Ayahanda berkenaan dengan perkara di atas.
Yang akan terus menyokong Ayahanda sehingga akhir hayat saya..
sazkhan
For what I know, judges are not god. just human.
Every day I am waiting for the Bar Council's view on this matter....apparently none. I thought they were crying out for the judiciary to be reformed but yet kept quiet on this issue. I wonder why? Maybe because Tun is on the other side and they dont want to give views that would appear to support Tun.
Dear Tun,
Bravo...apa nak hairan..memang sikap menteri2 dizaman paklah ini memang dah bersifat pengampu..they will act or do something bila semua tu akan memberi pulangan pada dia orang ..not for the rakyat..
keep writting Tun..May God bless u.
TUN,
AMERIKA SYARIKAT TIDAK MAHU ANUAR DISIASAT.
DAHSYAT TU TUN,
MENTANG MENTANG ANUAR TU TALI BARUT AMERIKA CEPAT AJA JABATAN NEGARA AS BERSUARA.
SAYA MENENTANG ABG SAYA SENDIRI: ANTIMAMAK
IC + AAB + ZI + NA = STASI
ASSALAMUALAIKUM TUN
quote:-
..."The then Prime Minister went there (to the Judges Conference) to issue a thinly veiled threat to remove judges by referring to the tribunal that was set up before and stating that though it may be difficult to do so it was still done"... (9 June 2008)
..."Now to the matter of the veiled threat. Dr Mahathir did not say that he will remove judges by referring to tribunal in those express words. You must know what went on before to appreciate what message he was attempting to convey in his devious way and to look at the subsequent events to put what he had said in the right perspective."... "dropping words to that effect here and there"... (24 June 2008)
KAWAN DENGAN PEMIMPIN FLIP-FLOP / SPIN MEMANG AKAN JADI MACAM NI TUN. HARI NI CAKAP LAIN, ESOK CAKAP LAIN, LUSA CAKAP LAIN... INI CAKAP TAK PAKAI OTAK.
GOLONGAN ORANG-ORANG TAK BEROTAK MACAM PEMIMPIN FLIP-FLOP KITA.
qoute:-
In any case Chin should be happy that the Honourable the de facto Minister of Justice has decided (not the Attorney General whose job it is to examine the case) not to set up a tribunal or to do anything.
INI LAH BUKTI PENTADBIRAN YANG TAK TERATUR DALAM KABINET AAB. MENTERI NI BUKAN TUGAS DIA MACAM TUGAS DIA JER... APA ORANG MELAYU KATA... ORANG GILA KUASA... SEMUA DIA NAK URUSKAN WALAUPUN TAHU AKAL TAK ADA.
INI JUGA BUKTI MENTERI BERKENAAN CUBA MELINDUNGI IAN CHIN.
P/S:- Menyampah tengok menteri macam tu. Buang tong sampah lagi baik. Malah sampah-sampah dalam tong sampah lagi bernilai... boleh recycle, buat baja dll. Menteri tu satu sen haram tak guna.
YBhg Tun,
I can't help but admire your brilliant & factual response to the honorable Judge Chin's remarks. Judges like Chin are the ones that erodes the very essence of credibility to the legal system & fraternity in our beloved Malaysia. Whilst I'd never really bothered to indulge in the public, political & even judicial issues at hand, your writings intrigue me & made me want to pause a while to look into these issues.
Keep on writing, Sir. Looking forward to reading more of your writings. May Allah Swt always be with be you.
Askum Tun,
Pertamanya tahniah diucapkan kepada Tun kerana telah dianugerahkan BrandLaureate Award.
Berkaitan dengan Judge Ian Chin ini, jika Tun mempunai bukti terhadap salah lakunya diharapkan dapat membuat report polis agar ia dapat disiasat segera. Jika hanya menulis di blog sahaja ia tidak membawa apa2 makna. Sy tidak sesekali menyokong Ian Chin tetapi sesuatu perlu dilakukan selain dari hanya menulis di blog.
Melalui beberapa komen oleh blogger disini, ramai yang menyokong agar kita semua membuat bantahan senyap dengan memakai riben putih dan bendera putih tetapi malangnya sehingga kini tiada apa yang berlaku. Hanya sekadar berkata-kata tanpa tindakan susulan. Cadangan tersebut juga amat diragui keberkesanannya tetapi sekurang-kurang ada tindakan yang diambil.
Sejak kebelakangan ini, telah jarang Tun mengutarakan masalah yang melanda UMNO dimana sy berpendapat ramai blogger disini yg lebih berminat untuk mengembalikan imej dan kepimpinan UMNO yang semakin hari semakin tercalar dan lesu dari isu Ian Chin ini. Apakah Tun tidak lagi berminat terhadap isu tersebut?
Kepada warga blogger semua, apakah tujuan asal kita sebenarnya?
Fikir-fikirkan lah.
Sekian, semoga Tun dan keluarga senantiasa dirahmati Allah.
erm...waiting for next 'social contract' la Tun :-)
Yg Bhg Tun...
Teruskan perjuangan Tun.
Kami barisan anak-anak muda berada dibelakangmu.
Kami percaya apa yang Tun lakukan pada negara sepanjang 22 tahun adalah untuk negara dan bukannya untuk kepentingan sendiri. Mereka yang cuba mencari kesalahan Tun sebenarnya mempunyai agenda tertentu...dan agenda mereka tidak akan berjaya selagi Tun terus memberikan hujah yang bernas seperti ini....
Kami anak-anak muda Kedah menyokong Tun bukan Pak Lah.
Teruskan Perjuangan Tun Dr. Mahathir Jasamu dikenang...
Dear Tun!!!
GREET AND POWER!!!
BONGKAR SEGALA-GALANYA TUN!!!
YESSS TUN DAH BAGI PENERANGAN KES ANWAR TOT TAHUN1998!!!
KAMI TAHU BUKAN TUN YANG REKA CIPTA KES INI.
TETAPI MEMANG ANWAR TOT TU SUNTUT ORANGNYA!!!
TUN MAHATHIR FOREVER!!!
WE ALL LOVE U!!!
Dear Tun,
Frankly, being an engineer by profession, the law is a very difficult subject for me to comprehensively understand it. In physics or maths, 1+1=2 it is an absolute facts.. which are accepted widely on the planet... But when it comes to definition, and understanding the law, with all the wordings, intepretation can be a very difficult subjects. Different people have different intepretation, different comprehension and different moral values and thus these factors could lead to a differences in the intepretations.
There are so many laws on this planet. There are Islamic laws, the are british laws, american laws, china laws, japan law... Every country have a different law and every country have a different intepretation of the law. Hence it is very difficult when we want to address some issues that are not really absolute. There will always be two side of the coins and there will always be people to intepret these events or issues.
I always believe that when you are holding a position, for instance as a PM, CEO,or Ketua Kampung, a father or parents, the responsibility will fall on you. You need to decide to call the shot. And sometimes, the decisions may not be the popular decisions, but you need to decide based on your level of responsibility. A prime minister is responsible for the stability of the entire nation... he is answerable to 27million people and not just the cabinet, or the BN people. He need to ensure that the people can have the utmost benefit from his decisions.
The Malaysian politics is becoming unstable and there have so much struggle for power that we as the ordinary rakyat is the biggest losers. The leaders have their number uno priority to hang on to their positions and this situation is really bad for the rakyat.
The recent secenario in politics will have a very damaging impact on Malaysia. I think as the ex-prime minister, you will have a better understanding of the current situation. I believe that you have the answers to all our plights and if only people can turn around and have the courtesy to ask some of your advises, then we can turn the tide around. I believe currently there are two "very hot issues" just coming out which entangled the "top two" politicians in Malaysia that is becoming a more confusing development.
I am not sure if there is any better future for tommorrow, but I think if there is anybody that can bring a new inspired hope in this country it, one of the person that we can always count on will be you...Tun Dr. Mahathir Mohamad.....
Salam Dear Tun,
Any action or words uttered by these people are lies. Do not dwell your thoughts on them Tun. It is a waste of your valuable time. Whatever they do, it will only justify their action. We only hope that you could be our general again and start to gather people to take away the garbage leadership.
Dear God, help us all from forthcoming destruction
Yang dihormati Tun Dr. Mahathir
What a wonderful piece of article. Hitting them right on the head. Our back door Justice Minister. Look good outside, but it's bad inside.
Well Zaid, "a man is judged by his work". People do not judged you by what you're capable of doing, but by what you've already done.
Since your appointment, you've screwed up. Welldone.
Thanks, Tun. It's dinner time.
Tanjung Bunga
Asm Tun
Its very obvious that this judge is just another devil created by this flip flop fail goverment.There is crystal clear evidence that this learned judge is abusing his position just to tarnish your image.The peoples of this loving country is solidly behind you my beloved Tun Mahadhir.I just dont know how to elaborate the attitude of the current goverment.Like you say this PM is try to manage the country in a very worst way.
YBhg. Ayahanda Tun,
Semoga ayahanda dan bonda Tun Siti Asmah sentiasa berada dalam keadaan sihat diberkati Allah swt.
Hidup Melayu kini makin terhimpit di bawah pemerintahan UMNO Pak Lah & Co.
Tun,
Chin accused you of behaving like East German Secret Police (STASI)?
Why don't he use Nazi Germany Gestapo as an example?
Salam,
The flip-flop disease is indeed infiltrated judiciary. Chin is probably a low grade judge.
And, why every statements about Tun is being issued from the Chair? Why not make a proper press statements outside the court?
regards from anti-koro judge,
Mr Belimbing
More of me at mrbelimbing.blogspot.com
Tun,
The vast majority of the rakyat knows this is an attempt to tarnish your image. I'm sure AAB is also happy to keep you pre-occupied with other matters while he continues to plunder UMNO and our beloved nation into the abyss of wrecklessness. Please do not play their games but continue in your quest to regain the honour of Malaysia that has been lost to these incompetent excuse for leaders!
assalamualaikum TUN.......
saya sendiri tidak percaya dgn sistem kehakiman negara ini serta pihak polis,mmg tiada ketelusan.....
yg byk duit boleh beli keputusan yg berpihak kpd mereka,tanya kat bekas2 banduan apa yg terjadi kpd mereka sewaktu soal siasat,dipukul,di hina,dicerca........saya pernah alami sebab itu sy berani katakan.....
sampai sy mati pun sy tidak akan mempercayai kedua-dua bdn ini..
biar Allah yg mengadili mereka....tak seorg pun akan terlepas hukuman Allah
wasalam
Assalamualaikom Yun.
Chin J also a politician.But he lost in the election.He is use by the group of lawywers who are waiting for the time to jourpodise you.Keep up Tun.That is agood explaination.Thanks.
Based on info provided by Tun, I am of the view that he is no longer fit to remain as a judge............thanks
Salam TUN yg Disayangi,
This Mr.Zaid is too much. First he says we want to be transparent,yet he dont want to reveal the amount of the ex-gratia paid to the judges.He can do that if it is his own money, but sadly its the people's money.By paying these judges he's saying that all these judges are not guilty.Then automatically he's saying the tribunal,TUN and don't forget we also have a DYMM Seri Paduka Baginda Yg DiPertuan Agong back then are in the wrong." Bukan semua org melayu mudah lupa " Mr.Zaid you are one of those " YANG MUDAH LUPA "
I wonder why anything bad is said to TUN,you will be the first to say TUN is guilty.Where in the case of Judge Ian Chin, you are also the first to say he is innocent. It seems that in Malaysia now
you are the JUDGE & JURY.
I'm not an umno member nor I'm into politics but lately there are two politician that i believe, what the malay say " Kurang a... ".Mr.Zaid & Mr. Nazri. Paklah tak apa sebab dia tak tahu apa-apa pun( Sleeping partner )
P/S Anwar Sodomy Case.
This is his own doing. Way to garner more sympathy and publicity. Told them that he is with the american but they dont believe. The american have responded.They wont if it is somebody else. " Bangunlah sebelum negara tergadai "
that I have committed something unlawful which he is privy to and which the public is not unaware (?)
if i'm in malaysia..i'd make a police report on him..
Malaysian!..ramai-ramai mari buat repot polis pasal ian chin ni..kemungkaran depan mata..jangan kita berdiam diri..
Hazman
ye...ye I'm no 1
Assalamulaikum Tun,
It is sad to see the system have gone disarray especially judiciary systems. In my opinion the simple things have gone into sophiscated mode without finding an end to find the solution to the problems.
Fact findings, well now have gone into fault findings.
I truly believe a statesman like Tun Know what he write, people never learnt . the history is there and the truth prevails eventually.
The Good , The Bad and The Ugly. (Clint Eastwood Movie). The Country have gone into The Wild Wild West, The BAD Used to say "YOU want to Shoot, Shoot and Dont Talk". Now The Shooter is there and The target is punched.
I truly respect you Tun, You really know how to say it in style and some people wonder what happened..these people MUDAH LUPA..and NEVER Learn the lesson. The Past is bitter .
SALAM AYAHANDA TUN, SEMOGA ALLAH MEMBERI KESIHATAN YANG BAIK KEPADA TUN BERSERTA KELUARGA. SAYA TERTARIK DENGAN KOMENTAR TUN BERKAITAN KONTRAK SOSIAL WALAUPUN SEBELUM NI IANYA DITULIS DALAM BAHASA INGGERIS.SAYA BERHARAP TUN TIDAK AKAN BERHENTI MENULIS KERANA DENGAN TULISAN TUN KAMI DAPAT TAHU APA YANG KAMI TIDAK TAHU SELAMA INI.SAYA SELAKU RAKYAT MALAYSIA AKAN SENTIASA MENYOKONG TUN.SAYA AMAT MENGHARAPKAN KEBANGKITAN TUN SEMULA SEBAGAI PEMIMPIN BANGSA MELAYU YANG SEMAKIN 'MELAYU'.SAYA AMAT RISAU DENGAN KEADAAN YANG MELANDA NEGARA KITA,RAKYAT BAWAHAN TERTINDAS, MANAKALA YANG DI ATAS DAPAT MENIKMATI SEGALA KEMEWAHAN DAN KESENANGAN. DIHARAP TUN TIDAK AKAN BERHENTI MENGRITIK. HIDUP TUN
p/s : mesti lama Tun tak pekena dalca Majid Katering (Lorong Gedegang)
Salam Tun,
Apa pendapat Tun berkenaan dakwaan terbaru ini keatas Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim?
Adakah satu konspirasi politik?
Wallahualam
Tun, it's hard for me to believe you are as clean as a whistle.I for my part still believe you are a liar co's the way you treat Anwar,meddling the judiciary,and fanning the racist fire is enough to prove that that you are guilty beyond reasonable doubt.My generation and that of my children will forever remember these incident as the DARKEST DAY in our history.Sorry,Tun,you have failed to convince me that you are not what I think,A LIAR.Anyway thanks for your statement.
Greetings Tun,
Its time you answer categorically all baseless allegations against you. (which you already are, and keep going Tun )
Your blog is a very powerful media and almost everyone has access to it now.
You have every right to defend yourself.
http://mmcrossings.blogspot.com/
Tahniah Tun,
Tell the current Govt that life span is just another 4 years or 1460 days before next election and Pak Lah dan kuncu2 dah risau apa akan jadi kat depa.
YAB TUN DR M,
Ian Chin tidak sangka jadi begini rumit...terpaksa berdepan dgn Fakta demi fakta dari YAB Tun, Bagi menutup kesalahan BIAS dan CELAAN Mahkamah Persekutuan, beliau sanggup pula menjadi orang kuat Pak Lah ( Staff KJ ). Andaiannya mudah..Bila Big Boss duduk dibelakang aku...Sure selamat punya. Tapi dia lupa..bila laporan Polis telah dibuat, satu dari Karpal yang entah mengapa bermusuh sangat dengan Tun dan satu dari Matthias,peguam bebas yang ingin menegakkan keadilan..maka kes ini akan membongkarkan lagi kepincangannya. Selama mana Big Daddy nya akan cover...Kita Lihatlah.
Wan Azizah pula semasa membela Abg Nuarnya telah mengatakan ketidakpercayaan terhadap Sistem Mahkamah Malaysia..dan dia ada kaitkan dengan apa yang berlaku terhadap Ian Chin. Jangan lupa...Hakim yang dia paling percayapun sebenarnya seorang Penderhaka kepada Agong. Dan jangan lupa bahawa...Kes Liwat Abg Nuar memang ada...cuma mahkamah lepaskannya atas 'kesilapan teknikal'
Penghakiman yang membebaskannya berbunyi:
" Even though reading the appeal record, we find EVIDENCE TO CONFIRM that the appellants were involved in homosexual activities and we are more inclined to believe that the alleged incident at Tivoli Villa did happen, sometime, this court, as a court of law, may only convict the appellants if the prosecution has successfully proved that the alleged offences as stated in the charge, beyond reasonable doubt"
Jelas...ada perbuatan Liwat...tidak dinafikan..cuma 'KESILAPAN TEKNIKAL' YANG MEMBEBASKANNYA.
Abg Nuar sangat pandang tinggi kepada Ian Chin..sampai mendapat liputan meluas kat blognya. Dalam masa yang sama tidak percaya kepada sistem kehakiman,polis dan Peguam Negara. Katanya dia ada bukti pakatan antara KP dan AG... Memanglah ada bukti..bila keduanya sering berbincang di atas sesuatu kes tertentu atas hal tugas. Macam juga Abg Nuar berbincang dgn barisan peguamnya...untuk menang KES.
Tuan-tuan,
YAB Tun Dr M tidak pernah lari dari siasatan,malah minta Polis menyiasat dengan teliti dan adil lagi...Mengapa begitu...Sebabnya Tun Seorang pemimpin berjiwa besar, setiap perjalanan hidupnya hanya untuk berbakti kepada Agama, bangsa dan Negara. Jika tak salah mengapa takut. Abg Nuar lari ketakutan sambil-sambil mencari nafas baru untuk menyerang 'regim' yang kononnya 'mereka-reka cerita'
Pemimpin yang beginikah..yang kita semua nak taruh Masa Depan? Teruk-teruk Pak Lah...Sebab dia kuat Tidur. Teruk-teruk Abg Nuar sebab dia 'Kemaruk' ******.
tun, memang benar , apa yang pasti kini politik anwar ibrahim cukup licik. dengan perwatakan ,gaya percakapan memang kita mudah percaya. dengan isu yang terbaru ...liwat lagi.. rakyat malaysia boleh melihat dan menunggu langkah yang akan diambil oleh anwar... bersembunyi di kedutaan turki.. mohon bantuan amerika...apa ni .. kita tidak perlu seorang pemimpin seperti anwar..pemimpin ini pasti akan memporak-perandakan malaysia..mungkin malaysia akan dijual seluruhnya.. minta jaminan polis, jaminan kerajaan seolah tidak percaya kredebiliti anggota keselamatan kita, taktik beliau jika berlaku sebarang kecelakaan kepada beliau maka rakyat malaysia penyokong fanatik beliau pasti akan merusuh seperti mana belaku pada zaman tun.. harap kerajaan AAB buka mata dan telinga jangan biar rusuhan belaku lagi dan tangkap golongan subversif penyokong beliau... ayuh kita bersama memerangi pemimpin yang korup...jangan jadikan malaysia seperti negara iraq @ afghanistan
Saya amat bangga dengan Tun...
Kenapa?
Kerana Tun mampu berhujah dengan lantang dan mudah difahami...
Saya ingat lagi buku yang saya baca 'Word that works'
Di dalamnya, ada dibincangkan mengenai Collin powell's doctrine iaitu setiausaha pertahan US bebrapa tahun dahulu.
Penulis mengatakan ucapan Powell telah digunakan sebgai doktrin kerana ucapannya ringkas,mudah difahami oleh orang biasa tetapi padt.
Ini lah saya dapat fikirkan apabila membaca blog TUN ini (n_n)
Terima kasih TUN kerana sentiasa membantu kami memahami situasi-situasi dan isu-isu semasa yang sepatutnya dilakukan oeh kerajaan sekarang.
www.helmiasyraf.wordpress.com
Satu lg Tun pasal Pak Lah melawat Wan Azizah konon bagi simpati..pasaipa Saiful tak dapat treatment yang sama..Budak tu kena liwat lg la trauma..ni pi simpati kt anwar 'who enjoy the process of sodomizing'..
Apa Pak Lah nk bukti kan dengan tindakan macam ni..
"...there will be no similar episode under his administration as the Prime Minister"....apa maksud pak lah nak kata masa Tun prime minister dlo Anwar wasnt judged fairly and treated badly that he almost died?
This make me want to curse but I want to dress this out to everyone so I'll refrain from swearing..
Ni da lebih..apa cerita dengan bendera putih kita..I wore white shirt today..but I'm alone la kt Melbourne ni..
Hidup Tun!
Hazman
Assalamualaikum Tun dan keluarga,
Bravo! Suatu penjelasan yang jelas dan berani. Seharusnya mereka yang menimbulkan isu ini insaf kerana perbuatan memfitnah sesungguhnya akan memakan diri kembali. Janganlah hanya untuk menjaga kepentingan diri, orang lain disabitkan. Jangan berumah ditepi laut jika takut dilambung ombak Tsunami!
Tun tak mahu balik Kubang Pasu ke? Kami ahli K/Pasu amat dan masih memerlukan Tun! Biarlah mereka yang dicucuk hidung tu dengan lagak mereka tapi ahli akar umbi tetap bersamamu. Akan berlaku Tsunami di bhgn K/Pasu, ahli dah muak dengan perangai songsang mereka.
Apapun, you and Dr Hasmah are the best!
Yang Berbahagia Tun,
Jangan sampai isu Hakim yang seorang ini sampai dapat mengalih perhatian kita dari isu yang lebih besar. Mungkin juga salah satu cara mereka untuk mengalih pandangan Tun ke arah lain. Hakim Chin ini pun sekarang mungkin akan jadi perasan sendiri yang dia juga sangat penting sekarang.
Terima kasih atas pandangan-pandangan Tun yang sangat saya hargai.
Assalamualaikum TDM..
saya memang merasakan si Chin nie cuma nak tumpang populariti atas kritikan-kritikan yang dibuat ke atas tun selama nie...so,mana tau akan datang dia dapat jadi ketua hakim ke...huh!tak layak langsung!!anyway..good statement as usual TDM!may Allah bless u and ur family...
Dear Tun,
You've never ceased to amaze me in your ability to explain issues in great detail. No wonder people were reluctant to argue with you during your time as the Prime Minister. I believe that their reluctance was not because they were not allowed to express their opinion but mainly because they did not have all the facts to argue with you. As for Ian Chin and the Honourable de facto Minister of Justice, they have greatly underestimated you and I am very sure they are in for more surprises!
Please Tun, keep on writing.
Eh...! Am I the first?
Tun,
Pandangan Hakim Ian Chin terhadap Tun amat keterlaluan. Kini kami telah dapat menilai setelah mendengar penjelasan daripada kedua-dua pihak.
Salam
Tun,
Cerita ini semakin hangat. Tak sabar menanti tulisan selanjutnya.
Teruskan.
salam Tun,
May Allah bless you and your family.Stay cool!
YABhg Tun,
Salam Hormat.Izinkan saya memberi komen yg berkaitan dgn Hakim Chin dan penjelasan YABhg Tun mengenai Social Contract. Isu isu ini menyentuh Majlis Peguam, Menteri yang menjaga Kehakiman dan Undang-Undang dan Hakim. Apakah peranan Menteri (yang juga seorang peguam dan ahli politik).Apakah peranan Hakim ini yang pernah bertanding dalam pilihanraya. Apakah peranan peguam peguam dalam Majlis Peguam berbincang mengenai Social Contract. Sebagai seorang Menteri, beliau sepatutnya bercakap dan memberi penjelasan mengenai Social Contract kepada Majlis Peguam dan rakyat. Peguam-peguam pula ingin bercakap mengenai social contract, keadilan dan ketelusan, tetapi peguam-peguam lah yang menangguk keuntungan dan 'menindas' anak anak guam mereka. Majlis Peguam sepatutnya melihat salahlaku ahli-ahli mereka. Nampaknya, Menteri baru ni, peguam dan Hakim Chin dalam Parti yang sama.
In the case of Anwar, the police reported to me about his bad morals and after consulting my colleagues and the UMNO Supreme Council, I took action to remove him. I did not keep these reports in order to threaten him.
Now of course he has another police report and it would be interesting to see how Chin's friends in the Government will deal with it.
Its seems like people of Malaysia still waiting further clarification from Yg Berbahagia Tun on bad morals of DSAI.
Ayahanda,
could you comment on the action that people must do in order to get quick result of pak lah stepping down..
And what about the latest issue of DSAI?
And looks like the government had look and take action on the social contract issue..
What is next??
I really hope that you can tell me about Anwar characteristics and his relation with the America, and why you did not want him as a prime minister.. i know you won't do this, but please for the goodnes of Malaysian..
we love you Tun, teach us and guide us with your knowledge and wisdom..
So KL is sleeping? Here is first from Tokyo.
I keep following this topic but helpful ideas do not come out of my mind. Perhaps later.
Yeah - I am interested also to see how the government will handle the Anwar affair's.
Salam Yg Berbahgia Tun,
Another, superb explanation! I believe Ian Chin is now speechless. He’s nothing compared to Tun. Don’t worry Tun, a lot of people support you. We trust you. BERANI KERANA BENAR,TAKUT KERANA SALAH.
So, to whom it may concern…Tun said:
“I leave it to the public to judge. If anyone had had a police report waved in his face during the 22 years I was Prime Minister, please make a police report."
BRAVO Tun!
May Allah SWT bless Tun and family. Thanks.
akum TDM
Harap tun sihat selalu...
Salam hormat Tun,
We don't believe Ian Chin. How can he bad mouth people in court? Tun carry on exposing those people. We need you back. Please come back and save us.
Interesting that a judge can talk about something not related to the that he is attending to. He is using court like MP is using parliment!
As for Anwar Ibrahim case, I thought he is making a police report against IGP and AG concerning fabrication of evidence regarding his previous sodomy case BUT he is only complaining about his mistreatment by the former IGP. He is not complaining about his sodomy case. Therefore, your allegation about him sodomising people is true!! It was true then and it is true now!
Assalammualaikum YBhg Tun,
It is rather strange that the de facto Minister of Justice made the statement that no tribunal or royal commission will be set up to hear about the misconduct of Chin J. What Chin J has said in the imunity of his court can be considered an act of a coward. If for whatever reason Chin J can find the right word about the alleged "veiled threat" we hope that he will make an open statement and not within the walls of his chamber.
With regards to Zaid, his immediate reaction to the initial Chin J accusation against yourself showed just how an opportunistic individuals he is. It make me wonder how he achieved such a high stature as a lawyer and had a successful law firm before he accepted the post of de facto Minister of Justice when he can't even distinguish between facts and fictions.
On Tun's decision not to file a complaint against Chin J would sure fristrate some of the rakyat who want to see such judge be judged for misconduct. Anyway, we respect Tun's decision and we hope that this issue can finally be put to rest.
LoyalCitizen
Shah Alam
how much he is paid for this kind of game anyway?...is he the god of the judges who knew whats gonna happen upfront...???? wahh...can give 4D number meh??...
Salam Tun,
Saya amat ingin membaca komen Tun mengenai berita terbaru Anwar Ibrahim dituduh meliwat lagi. Tentulah ramai ingin tahu pendapat Tun. Terima kasih.
http://www.megasutra.com
Assalamualaikum Tun and everyone...
The learned de facto Minister of Justice was not and never will be an elected leader. This shows how incompetent he is and that he is a man with no 'hardware'. He ran/went away when it matters, and with the help of another incompetent leader, he was brought up to a post where he is right now. I wonder how did his company became the biggest law firm in the country. It must be through his tongue twisting, and venomous talks (heard a joke about lawyers and snakes?). I just wish that I can say it to his face that he is a sissy with no balls. As for 'not so' Justice Chin, just shut your hole! Another sissy hiding behind your immunity. 'BAND OF SISSIES'! That is what these people should be called. sissies....
"I leave it to the public to judge. If anyone had had a police report waved in his face during the 22 years I was Prime Minister, please make a police report."-
Yes Tun...let public to judge.
Its clear now who Judge Chin was.
And I pity too the people who have to be tried by Judge Chin.
Salam hormat kepada Tun yang dikasihi...
Adakah saya yang pertama hari ni?
Semoga Tun dianugerahkan kesihatan yang baik untuk terus memimpin kami, dan meneruskan usaha memartabatkan ugama, bangsa dan negara
Dear Tun Dr. Mahathir.
I am a teacher. Physics is my core teaching subject. All this time, I have been wondering the isues behind Lingam's case which I don't understand.
As a teacher, I am trained not to use bad names when referring to my students. If by students provocation, a teacher call his/her student with bad words, the teacher will most probably be charge in court. Most of the times, the judge will never pitty the teacher.
I feel guilty for beeing unable to equiped our students with good manners. Believe me, we teachers have tried our best cultivating good manners in our students. But we fail. I only good in physics.
It seems that you are not given a chance to object when he refereh you by the bad words.
Salam Sejahtera Buat Tun,
He is not educationally fit. Not your level. Pity those cases ruled under him. Waste of Public money... (my income tax).
No respect for him.
Love you Tun.
Terima Kasih
hi tun im ur die hard fan although im a singaporean, u r my icon under ur kerajaan i always follow up ur political affair... i rili miz ur speech in de tv or anywhere else... i just hope dat u will make a come back to govern malaysia again... malaysia are known.. becoz of u.... just come back en resuffle again a new goverment..all malaysian miz u.. infect.. de whole muslim world miz u.. miz ur leaders touch... dun worry.. de whole muslim world doa for ur good health..aamiin..
Dear Tun,
Probably it time to let the public know what kind of person the De facto Law minister Zaid Ibrahim is. His corruption case in UMNO etc. What a shame, he was not even elected by rakyat and yet made a minister of such an important portfolio?
Deterioration of judiciary is a reality now.
Free UMNO of kaki bodek and pengampu. Please......
SAYANG TUN
BRAVO!BRAVO! TUN
TUN yang saya rasa pelik sekali The Three Bad Bloods secara serentak telah buat kenyatan selepas saja ChinJ buat dlm kandang keselamatan makhamah.
Otak mereka ni kan dah tak boleh lagi berfikir dan buat perkara secara rasional untuk kepentingan rakyat kerana mereka dendam TUN dah lama dah. Otak mereka otak dendam. "OTAK2 DENDAM".
Zaid dah abuse power kerana kepentingan legal circle. Dia buat bukan kerana kepentingan rakyat.
Karpal Singh memang dah lama dendam TUN kerana kepentingan politiknya. Dan perjalanan dia saya anggap dia antiMelayu.
Ambiga sama seperti Karpal Singh.
Mengenai kes Anwar baru ni: "Hello TTBBs senyaaap aja.. mana lu orang aah..! semunyiik kaa? Lu orang skarang ah sudah jadi political desperados ada tau tak?"
TUN teruskan perjuangan. Plse continue to reveal about them, their dirty characters and behaviour.
Kita mau rakyat hukum mereka dan kuburkan dia orang punya profession
yang putar belit itu. JIJIK! SAMPAR MASYARAKAT.
May God Bless You and Family, Sihat Walafiat.
Tun,
Sungguh Tun tidak berkuasa lagi tetapi ada kalangan tertentu yang masih gerun dengan Tun. Tun kena lah berbangga sikit mengenai hal ini. Tidak boleh berbangga macam TV3 sebab bangga itu riak dan di larang ugama.
Apa yang berlaku kepada Tun itu ibarat 'baling batu sembunyi tangan'.
Sekiranya berlaku pergaduhan, budak kecil disatu pihak yang di sokong oleh orang dewasa mampu melempang musuh tunggal yang tua sambil melompat pula sekiranya budak itu kerdil. Situa tidak boleh berbuat apa apa kerana mereka ramai.
Adalah satu kaum itu sebahagian mereka dengan bongkaknya mengatakan 'melayu bodoh'. Yakin sungguh yang mereka itu pandai. Padahal yang tertulis dari kaum yang pandai secara saintifik itu Yahudi saja. Tumpang perasan.
Oleh itu Tun buktikan sikap memandang rendah itu adalah mimpi di siang hari.
Terlalu yakin yang melayu ini boleh di kotak katikkan.
Kita juga berfikiran tajam.
Bertolak ansur dengan sabar dan berdiam diri bukan bererti kita bodoh.
Biar mereka merasa bisa dan tau kita berbisa.
Rapuhkan keyakinan tolol mereka.
Tun..
I don't really care of what Ian Chin has been saying but what makes me wonder is Zaid. He said that your allegations are baseless and the government will only act if you provide them with proof to support your allegations. Well, if you can get your hand on the copies of all the reports, why can't he do the same? He is just plain dumb and I wonder what did Ian do the country that he defended Ian more than you. Is there anything you can do to get even with Ian to humiliate Zaid? Can't stand looking at his face.
Salam hormat.
Dear Tun,
Dah Ian Chin pulak lagi... Marah betul Tun kat dia ni...
Of course banyak orang nak buat kita.... especially if we are down..
But Cheer up.! Tun.. We all support you..
Wahai bloggers sumua..
Apa macam dah start ke protest senyap kite..?
En Ashar..
Amacam.? Nak kene byk promosi lagi laa... Ideas pls....
Mana-mana bloggers ada main sepak raga dak..???
Itu permainan Rakyat... syok oooo...
Kat tempat saya ni baru mola main balik..
Hmm... Laa ni mcm2 benda buruk dok jadi...
Kes Anwar lah.. Bedollah Lah.. Rosmah lah...
Ishk.. ishk.. ishk... Kes orang susah tak cukup makan takda ka.?
Kes belanja bulan tak cukup takda ka.?
Kes kalau kena sepak lani rebah tak dak ka.?
Hai... Apa nak jadi kat Malaysia nih...
Saham Jatuh..
RM jatuh..
Ni penganalisa ekonomi ni betui ka..??
Menganalisa Ekonomi kat dia saja kut.....
Pasai pa kalo duit Sterlingka, Euroka naik.. duit kita jatuh.?
Tak bole ka kita buat bagi negara kita setaraf dengan depa..
Malaysia.. oooh Malaysia...
Tun,
Selamat Berkat... Tolong perjuangkan nasib kami rakyat jelata yang dah nak karam..
Semoga Tun and family sihat wal lepat liat..
Salams...
YABhg Tun,
Your following sentences are referred:
'In any case Chin should be happy that the Honourable the de facto Minister of Justice has decided (not the Attorney General whose job it is to examine the case) not to set up a tribunal or to do anything.
Chin appears to be unsparing in bad-mouthing other people from the safety of his court. He called me a "devil incarnate" and suggested that I behave like the East German Secret Police (STASI).
I wonder what the legal profession thinks about judges calling people names in their courts, people who are not even connected with the case being heard, and certainly people who had never been given a chance to be heard.
If this is the new standard then what people say about the deterioration of the judiciary must be true.'
Tun, why do you have to get angry with Judge Chin when you think that Judge Chin has bad-mouthed you? Don't you remember that you were also a shrewd Prime Minister before who liked to name-call people as "Pengkhianat", "Rumour Monger", "Singapore Agent", "Israelite Agent", "American Spy", "Sodomizer", "Womanizer", "Chinese Chauvinist", "Communist Sympathizer", "Terrorist", and so forth. I believe many former ISA detainees and the current ISA detainees would also have the same kind of urge like Judge Chin has of wanting to name-call you a "devil incarnate".
During your 22 years' iron fist reign of Malaysia, you have indiscriminately made use of the callous draconian law to detain the people whom you saw as the threat to the stability of your political regime. The ISA detention which you initiated in the past had indeed led to family breakdown and financial predicament of many innocent people. ISA detention camp during your reign had never ever been a holy place which you could be proud of. The ISA detention camp under your administration was nothing more than a looter's house which required a hungry and weak-minded detainee to pay RM20 for a piece of Roti Canai, which would only be delivered at 2:10 am early in the morning, after a promise had been made by the detainee's family member to pay the bill outside the detention camp. It is certainly quite reasonable for some righteous people to suggest that you did behave like the East German Secret Police (STASI).
Your veiled threat posed on a former Yang Dipertuan Agong in order to compel him to sign the Constitutional Amendment for the establishment of Special Court was the hard proof of your behaving like STASI.
The deterioration of judiciary is nothing new in Malaysia. Tun, can you still remember about the cases of vain effort complaints on police brutality and rape cases involving the policemen in the police lock-up during your tenure of the PM's office? The origin of the deterioration could actually be traced back to the old days when you reigned Malaysia like a tyrant. Therefore, with your past history of behaving like a tyrant, you have indeed lost the rights to claim that you are a good man and you have lost the legitimacy to put the blame on your successor and to hold him responsible for the deterioration of judiciary in Malaysia.
Tun, if you have already realized the wrong which you did in the past and you wish to repent on your past wrongdoing, then I will be most willing to uphold you in prayers. I pray and ask Almighty God to dispense His merciful grace upon you and to deliver you from the bitterness which you suffer now. I pray that God may set you free with His forgiveness and loving-kindness since God will never foresake anybody who really shows a true repentance and who has the wishful will to seek God for the truths and ways of life. Amen!
Onlooker
Dear Tun,
Sad to have this kind of Judge in Malaysia.
zaid tu dari awal2 lagi dah nampak keegooan
perlantikan nya hanya kerana tekanan saja
mana dia dsab yang mencari ilmu kitab
kitab dah ada tapi tengok saja...
Esok sy akan mulakan pasang ribbon putih kat kereta saya....
Tun, you are a great man..
I want to hear a comment from you about latest of DSAI's sodomy case.
Thank you.
My dear Tun M:
I note that you are fond of employing expressions such as "unethical behaviour" "misconduct","corrupt", etc., when talking about other people. You have a sordid record as the past PM. People have dubbed and described you as "recalcitrant" "dictator", etc, based on their perception of your administration of 22 years. you mus remember that when you point an accusing finger at others, the other fingers are pointing towards you, indicating that you are more guilty than the others!
For heaven's sake, Tun, please put an end to all these vile accusations against people. Relax and enjoy life because we go through this world only once.
ABI
salam tun.
reading your blogs is like going to the law class i solute you..go for it and tarok them..this people deserve a bashing and baru padan muka dia..cakap saja dan fitnah orang ikut suka hati dia je..
take care
Asalamualaikum wbt..
Kepada Ayahanda Tun, semoga kesihatan Tun sentiasa berada dalam keadaan baik dan ceria bersama keluarga tercinta.
Nampak gayanya, serangan bertali arus terhadap Tun tidak berhenti.
Pun begitu dengan keikhlasan Tun menerangkan satu persatu soalan yang dilemparkan dapat membuka minda rakyat yang semakin jemu dan muak dengan "Kerajaan 3 Sekeluarga/ beranak".
Minda rakyat semakin celik termasuklah mereka yang dahulunya amat marah dengan Tun. Usaha membuka lebih besar minda rakyat wajar diperhebatkan lagi dengan memberi penjelasan yang baik terhadap persoalan yang dilemparkan kepada Tun.
Pada hemat saya, org yg cuba membuat onar ini tidak akan berhenti sehingga dia dapat apa yang dia mahu. Sebagai generasi yang pernah melalui zaman pemerintahan Tun, ternyata amat berbeza jurangnya dengan zaman ini.
Semoga Tun tenang menghadapi pelbagai tohmahan dengan penuh sabar dan yakinlah Tun bahawa rakyat tidak lagi pekak dan tidak lagi buta. Saya rasa rakyat Malaysia yang sayangkan negara sudah berada dibelakang Tun, insyallah.
ikhlas
~k~
Dear Most Honourable Tun,
I believe you are correct in your assessment of the current judiciary. What more, instead of being independent of one another, the executive now is working hand in hand in 'covering up' one another. Case in point, Zaid Ibrahim pre-empting the AG over the polcie report on Ian Chin.
What has this country come into? Zaid Ibrahim, for all his worth, is nothing more than an opportunist seeking 2nd life over his near death political ambition. And he paid it with his conscience and soul. I have no more respect for him.
His lawyers in his old firm must be shaking their heads in disbelief.
Thank you Tun and God bless.
Dengan izin,
http://jebatmustdie.wordpress.com/2008/06/25/somebody-took-the-jam-out-of-ian-chins-donuts
Dear Tun,
What do we expect from the de factor Minister of Law who took up his appointment through "backdoor"! He is just an impressionist as if he is the most reputable lawyer in town. As far as I am concerned I think his position is being planted by the Bar Council and the oppositions with the sole intention to discredit you for "mistreating" the whole legal fraternity during your term as Prime Minister. There is an element of "revenge" and deep ill feelings towards you, Tun.That's the way I analyse everytime the Law Minister made his statement.
He is now very busy to reform the judiciary system. What reform he is talking about? Taik Kucing lah !!!!
Salam Tun,
Bila saya baca tulisan "Judge's Misconduct" yang Tun tulis, dapatlah disimpulkan bahawa para hakim di Malaysia ini, tidak semuanya jahat kecuali beberapa orang hakim macam Ian Chin.
Bagaimana seorang hakim boleh membuat tuduhan kepada Tun iaitu Tun pernah ugut hakim dalam satu majlis hakim sedangkan tiada hakim lain yang mendengarnya..?? Hakim Ian Chin termasuk dalam kategori "Misconduct"...
Ada baiknya hakim Ian Chin letak jawatan. Tapi sebelum itu...dia patut jumpa Tun Mahathir dulu...mohon maaf banyak-banyak..Sepatutnya Ian Chin sudah boleh didakwa di Tribunal Hakim...tapi kerajaan sekarang...lebih-lebih lagi Zaid ibrahim pun dua kali lima macam Ian Chin tu....ni la yang jadi batu penghalang dan batu api....
Kes Anwar liwat Saiful????....saya sendiri masih sangsi...tetapi sebagai seorang Islam..saya ingin menasihatkan Anwar Ibrahim supaya membuat laporan di Mahkamah Syariah juga supaya nama baiknya tidak tercemar dengan perbuatan yang keji dan dilaknat oleh Allah S.W.T itu.
Di Mahkamah Syariah, Anwar bolehlah melakukan sumpah secara Islam menafikan ia melakukan perbuatan itu. Begitu juga adik Saiful pun turut bersumpah. Kes liwat ini sukar untuk dibuktikan kecuali jika ada 4 saksi, ada kesan DNA, dan kalau ada rakaman kamera litar tertutup..itu lagi bagus.
Saya harap juga adik Saiful pun turut buat laporan di Mahkamah Syariah terdekat supaya Mahkamah Syariah dapat menyekat perbuatan terkutuk itu daripada merosakkan muda mudi Islam malaysia.
Begitu juga, adik Saiful boleh buat laporan bersumpah di hadapan para Mufti. Sebab Mufti ini sangat taat kepada Allah S.W.T.
Kepada kerajaan regim Pak Lah...apa macam..?? Dulu kasi lepas ini orang...kononnya Pak Mahathir jahat....la ni...??? Siapa jahat..? Anwar atau Pak Lah..??
Allah S.W.T akan membalas setiap perbuatan hamba-Nya semasa hidup di dunia ini. Hukuman di akhirat belum tentu lagi....
Saya berpesan kepada Pak Anwar...takutilah balasan Allah S.W.T kerana hukuman Allah sangat dahsyat...dunia ini hanya sementara...
Ni satu chek nak habaq kat Anwar ni.... apa pasal hang pi habaq kat Amerika tu kata rakyat Malaysia nak pedajal hang...jahat sungguh hang ni no...kalau hang dah tak suka kat rakyat malaysia ni...hang masuk penjara balik lah...atau hang pi lah kat Amerika..hang duduklah kat sana sampai mampuih...
Hang jangan rosakkan Malaysia nooo...nahas hang tujuh keturunan...!!
Kepada Amerika...jika sayang sangat dengan Anwar..kena ingat sama adik Saiful tu sekali...adillah... kalau nak sangat Anwar tu...ambillah dia jadi warganegara AS..suruh dia bertanding Presiden AS...kalau menang aku gerenti...dia mesti serang malaysia dengan bomm...
Ok Tun...byeeee...
Dear Che Det,
When you are too high up, it is difficult to predict to what extend your minions would do without any of your consent simply because your security is their livelihood.
Therefore, because of this, arguments from both sides only can go round and round and you, will not be involved in anyway to be related to the allegations simply for being too high up to be reached.
What goes up must come down.
Hmmm hakim2 di malaysia ni patut pergi kurus etika kehakiman...
Dear Tun,
This is the judge who wears both hats of politics and justice. By the way, he used to dream of becoming a full time politician. In fact he stood in earlier general election but lost miserably. I wonder how did he make a comeback to the bench, after resigning from the it and lost in the election?
Any way he is here and there as a judge, and a politician here and there. Sooner he will be delivering judgements on possibility of here and there too.
Allah Bless you dear Tun Dr. Mahathir!
Hey Ian Chin, repeat your allegation out in the open! Let Tun Dr. Mahathir sue you and have the court pass judgement. Bar Council's members, care to comment???
I don't want to say anything about the back-door Minister of Law... waste of time.
All the best to all!
Wassalam.
Layman point of view: The law itself should settle this hu-ha. (Note that the law and the hu-ha are at the opposite end of seriousness spectrum)
The law of human communication:
"The degree of visibility of an intent is the opposite to the degree of sensitivity of the intent."
If the intent is of insensitive nature, then it will be spoken loud, plain and direct.
Should however, the intent is of a very sensitive nature which may cause uneasiness to both the speaker and his/her target, then the intent is conveyed in an almost invisible manner by combinations of body languages and dropping carefully selected words at right places in right tonations. The intent then reaches the target but the act of relaying the intent can't be proven to a third party due to its invisible nature.
However, should the target does not fully grasp and master the principles of sensitive intent transfer technique, he/she may become delusive and misinterprete the communication and thus the real intent.
The best thing about the technique is that the speaker can always deny that it has ever taken place, and there is no way for the target to proove otherwise.
Dear Sir,
Some people just like to comments and most of the times never realy understand the whole picture.
Many of us (sad to admit - Malaysian) are always looking for a reason on our wrong doing and why we cannot be better. Judges are not excluded. Before people start looking on their wrong doings and wrong judgements, better for them to push the balls to other people courts.
We likes to blames others on whatever wrong doing and failure we face. We never blame ourself in total.
Whatever happen, justice and the truth will always prevail.
Just remember what people used to say,
"REACH OUT AND CRUSH SOMEONE".
Sad that you cannot do acting as per you ex deputy. Wish to nominate him as best actor for seven (7) years in a row.
salam chaiyok chaiyok....
susah tul nak jd first...
Salam Tun,
Thank you for your kind explanation by using simple words and straight to the point. It helps me to better understand the issue of this misbehaved judge Ian Chin.
I for one am so disgusted with the Minister of Justice that does not seem to be just at all. He is so desperate trying to prove his existence as a hand-picked minister by Pak Lah. I still remember that he had asked for 3 months upon is appointment as a minister to do the judicial reform. Till this date he is still unable to justify why the reform should take place.
In my opinion, judicial reform could be made internally (based on Ian Chin's wild allegation while other judges are not willing to come forward and tell the truth openly) and not because of Tun had ruined it.
Anyway Tun, Congratulation on your latest award. Brand Award.
Semoga Tun mendapat perlindungan ALLAH SWT, dilimpahi rahmat dan kekuatan untuk terus berjuang.
Salam TUN,
You have made a good response from what had happened. I am of the opinion that Judges should not get involve in politics. He lost twice in the election and that itself as an evidence to prove that people cannot accept him (judge) as an MP.
Good article and also good lesson to be learnt for people in power now to be very careful in their actions.
Wassalam
Srazali Aripin
Brisbane, Australia
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Assalamualaikum Tun,
Apa yang saya lihat, dakyah Ian Chin merupakan salah satu usaha melalui percubaan demi percubaan untuk memperlekehkan Tun. Saya tahu dan semua tahu siapa dalangnya.
DSAB ingin mencipta Legacynya yang tersendiri, saya nampak dan boleh rasa, dia tidak mahu menumpang kecemerlangan dan kegemilangan yang Tun telah capai. Barangkali dia mahu runtuhkan negara ini dulu dan baru bina semula di atas runtuhan, penderitaan dan keperitan rakyat, dengan harapan rakyat sanjung dia.
Tun Tuah pernah berkata "Takkan Melayu Hilang Di Dunia", saya rasa ia hanyalah fantasi, Melayu semakin hilang di Tanah Melayu. Semangat kebangsaan semakin terhakis.. bangsa lain semakin berani meminta supaya hak-hak keistemewaan melayu dihapuskan.
Dalam persengketaan kita antara sesama sendiri sekarang, ditambahkan dengan kelembaban pemimpin, bangsa-bangsa lain telah ambil kesempatan untuk minta itu dan ini. Di Perak MB orang Melayu, mencadangkan untuk memberi status hak pemilikan tanah di kg2 Baru sehingga 999 tahun. Majoriti penduduk Cina, inikah yang kita nak dan hasil perjuangan kita selama ini. Tolonglah Pak Lah.. jangan pekakkan telinga, hingga macam ni pun mesej rakyat tu tak sampai-sampai lagi..
Saya cadangkan satu langkah drastik diambil, samada:
1. PAS masuk BN atau
2. UMNO menyertai PAS
untuk menyelamatkan bangsa dan Negara yang sudah berada di ambang kejatuhan.
Sekian dulu..
Doakan Tun dan Isteri sentiasa sihat serta dilindungi Allah.
Salam Tun,
Saya sokong 100%. Bukan semua hakim-hakim adalah adil dan betul. Saya tengok idea yang diketengahkan oleh menteri kehakiman tersebut akan menjadikan sistem kehakiman tersebut bertambah buruk dan merosakkan negara dan bukannya menambahbaik sistem tersebut agar menjadi lebih adil dan bebas.
nice read!
Tun taknak komen berkaitan dakwaan liwat.kedua Dato` Anwar Inbrahim ke?hope you will say something about that.May God bless you Tun.
-ifan tokyo-
Salam Sejahtera dan Salam Hormat serta salam sayang pada Tun & Keluarga serta kepada semua blogger...
For Sure the de facto minister of justice r stupid...just know how to tapping pak lah back only..what more can we aspect!!
Dear Tun,
Another example of a flip-flopping agent intent on silencing Tun, sent by an equally flip-flopping administration.
salam TUN...
saya sungguh berbangga mempunyai pemimpin seperti TUN,
saya sesungguhnya menyokong apa2 sahaja tindakan TUN.
YABhg Tun,
Allow me to correct a mistake which I made in the previous comment of this blog.
I mentioned that the ISA detention camp under Tun's Administration was nothing more than a looter's house which required a hungry and weak-minded detainee to pay RM20 for a piece of Roti Canai, which would have its delivery been taken place at 2:10 am early in the morning, after a promise had been made by the family member of the detainee for making payment outside the detention camp.
A friend of mine who was the former ISA detainee just reminded me that RM20 was a wrong price, that was a overly understated price. The correct price was RM200 per piece of Roti Canai. However, RM200 per piece was the price in 1998. I guess the Price of a piece of Roti Canai in ISA detention camp must have gone up very high now in the midst of the high inflationary pressure. Therefore, I stand to correct my mistake!
May I know, is this Tun's justice?
Onlooker