1. I had hesitated about writing the Pohon Maaf article even. I thought I would surely be misunderstood. I would be accused of being a racist.
2. Sure enough, although many agree with me, some felt sad that I had become a racist, others merely use nasty words against me.
3. When the opposition did very well in the 2008 elections, foreign observers talk about a wind of change in Malaysia; about how racialism had been rejected, how Anwar, their favourite would soon take over the Government.
2. Sure enough, although many agree with me, some felt sad that I had become a racist, others merely use nasty words against me.
3. When the opposition did very well in the 2008 elections, foreign observers talk about a wind of change in Malaysia; about how racialism had been rejected, how Anwar, their favourite would soon take over the Government.
4. I had differed from these casual observers because I know that it was not rejection of racial politics which helped the opposition. It was simply disgust on the part of members of UMNO, MCA and Gerakan of the Premiership and leadership of Dato Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi. Talking on the ground, this was quite obvious.
5. Far from the opposition's "win" being brought about by rejection of racial politics, it has actually enhanced racial politics. We talk more about race and racial interest than we did in the last 50 years.
6. The Malays are feeling the loss of their political base and the Chinese and Indians appear to be glorifying in the new political clout. As a result, subjects which we before regarded as sacrosanct are now brought up and made to be entirely in favour of the Malays.
7. Against this unfamiliar attack against them, the Malays are unable to counter. Their leaders have deserted them. In their frustration they tend to become abusive.
8. I am not defending nor do I like what Ahmad Ismail of Bukit Bendera said. It does not contribute to lessening the tension between the races. But I feel disgust at the inability of the present Malay leadership to manage racialism. It is degrading for the second highest leader in the Government to be apologising for every instance of improper behaviour by UMNO members.
9. The person who should apologise should be the culprit himself. If he refuses then he should face the UMNO disciplinary committee.
10. He may have a corruption case against him but suddenly making charges about his corruption smacks too much of abuse of power. The same thing has happened to the SAPP leadership.
11. It does seem that the Government of the Opposition parties are not unlike the present BN Government. Government agencies are being used for political purpose. I had admired Lim Guan Eng for his sound approach to problems. I feel sad that he has done what he has done.
12. It took a long time for me to live down the label as a Malay ultra. I had gained such strong support from the Chinese community in the 1999 Election when the Malays deserted me that I felt I was no longer regarded as a Malay ultra by the Chinese generally (the Opposition Chinese excepted). I was grateful for the Chinese support and I had many times publicly acknowledged that much of Malaysia's development was due to the dynamic Malaysian Chinese entrepreneurs and businessmen. But of course there are still Chinese who regard me as anti-Chinese.
13. I cannot please everybody. If I am again labelled as anti-Chinese and anti-Indian I really would not rebut. After all, my Cabinet colleagues and the people I helped to advance in their political career also condemn me.
14. Perhaps people should wonder why during the time of the previous four Prime Ministers, who were also Presidents of UMNO, there were no such utterances by UMNO members. And there were practically none from the non-Malays either.
5. Far from the opposition's "win" being brought about by rejection of racial politics, it has actually enhanced racial politics. We talk more about race and racial interest than we did in the last 50 years.
6. The Malays are feeling the loss of their political base and the Chinese and Indians appear to be glorifying in the new political clout. As a result, subjects which we before regarded as sacrosanct are now brought up and made to be entirely in favour of the Malays.
7. Against this unfamiliar attack against them, the Malays are unable to counter. Their leaders have deserted them. In their frustration they tend to become abusive.
8. I am not defending nor do I like what Ahmad Ismail of Bukit Bendera said. It does not contribute to lessening the tension between the races. But I feel disgust at the inability of the present Malay leadership to manage racialism. It is degrading for the second highest leader in the Government to be apologising for every instance of improper behaviour by UMNO members.
9. The person who should apologise should be the culprit himself. If he refuses then he should face the UMNO disciplinary committee.
10. He may have a corruption case against him but suddenly making charges about his corruption smacks too much of abuse of power. The same thing has happened to the SAPP leadership.
11. It does seem that the Government of the Opposition parties are not unlike the present BN Government. Government agencies are being used for political purpose. I had admired Lim Guan Eng for his sound approach to problems. I feel sad that he has done what he has done.
12. It took a long time for me to live down the label as a Malay ultra. I had gained such strong support from the Chinese community in the 1999 Election when the Malays deserted me that I felt I was no longer regarded as a Malay ultra by the Chinese generally (the Opposition Chinese excepted). I was grateful for the Chinese support and I had many times publicly acknowledged that much of Malaysia's development was due to the dynamic Malaysian Chinese entrepreneurs and businessmen. But of course there are still Chinese who regard me as anti-Chinese.
13. I cannot please everybody. If I am again labelled as anti-Chinese and anti-Indian I really would not rebut. After all, my Cabinet colleagues and the people I helped to advance in their political career also condemn me.
14. Perhaps people should wonder why during the time of the previous four Prime Ministers, who were also Presidents of UMNO, there were no such utterances by UMNO members. And there were practically none from the non-Malays either.
Salam Tun,
Kalau yang no 1 pun blurr tanpa focus yang tepat yang bawah-bawah tu lagilah teruknya...
Selamat Berbuka Puasa.
- Jinggo Rock -
Humans are strange.
Sometimes when we have gone to something for an advanced level, they tend to come back to square one. Like they don't learn anything along their journey through.
However, it's good for peoples whom still focus and could develop their mind accordingly despite of those peoples that are so narrow minded with their own way of thinking and cannot accept others.
I really do agree with you.
Salam Hormat,
-WiS2020-
Salam,I'm the first...:),selamat berbuka puasa Tok Det......from ur relative...
dalam sejarah pemerintan negara Tun adalah yang terbaik serta mempunyai wawasan yang tinggi.
amat dukacita jika peyambung pemerintahan sekarang ini "lemah"
kerana Tun pernah berkata " nasib sesebuah bangsa akan berubah jika mereka mahukan kejayaan dan berusaha untuk kejayaan- 2003"
Tun,
Apa khabar Tun & Isteri?Moga-moga sihat dan sejahtera.ini adalah pertama kali saya memberi comment.Untuk pengetahuan Tun,saya adalah peminat Tun lagi sejak kecil lagi.Saya amat kagum kebijaksanaan ,kepandaian,dan prinsip perjuangan Tun yang mengagumkan.Tetapi TUN,saya nak comment sikit lah berkaitan isu yang hangat sedang diperkatakan.Dunia sekarang telah berubah.Tak seperti dulu,saling hormat menghormati.pada saya,manusia perlu ada moral,sifat sifat yang saling menghormati,tolong menolong,janganlah saling menyinggungkan perasaan kaum antau bangsa lain.Ini tak baik ,betul tak Tun.Saya ingat lagi,semasa di bangku sekolah menengah lagi,guru ada mengajar mata pelajaran MORAL,tentang saling hormat menghormati,kita kena faham......ini penting....untuk menjaga keharmonian,keamanan....negara.Jika tak ada pengetahuan ini,bayangkan.....wahai rakyat malaysia....sekiranya peristiwa 13 mei berulang,saling bunuh membunuh.....berlakunya hura hara,seperti yang berlaku di thailand,mahu kah kita....perkara ini berlaku?apa akan jadi malaysia sekiranya berlaku?bayangkan.pada saya,yang salah tetap salah......buat salah...mesti minta maaf.berani buat salah berani tanggung....ini lah dipanggil "jantan".berkaitan budak cina "wee" yang menghina lagu malaysia...setahu saya...dia dan bapanya sendiri sudah memohon maaf.Ini baru betul....buat salah berani tanggung..barulah kaum lain akan "berasa lega" sikit.saya ada kawan kawan yang pelbagai kaum,cina,india,melayu,dan orang putih,tidak pernah berlaku saling hina menghina ,atau menyingung perasaan orang,kenapa tak berlaku?sebab mereka semua ini pandai fikir.matang.mereka tahu..pentingnya hormat menghormati.baru lah negara kita akan maju.makmur.dan aman.wahai orang malaysia,hidup ini pendek saja,buat lah perkara2 yang akan memaju kan negara,dan menjaga keamanan seelok-eloknya..saya tak mahu negara kita hura hara,seperti thailand,iraq dan banyak lagi.kenapa?sebab saya sayangkan malaysia.Saya sendiri pun ada anak.saya mengajarnya....buat salah mesti berani tampil ke hadapan...memohon maaf......bagi saya ini baru betul.Tun,jika comment saya tak betul bermakna, apa yang guru ajar masa dulu....adalah salah.prinsip saya ialah......buat salah mesti berani tanggung......salah tetap salah.....saya harap wakil rakyat yang sedang hangat diperkatakan itu......akan "insaf".Dan saya ingin mohon maaf kepada Tun sekiranya apa yang saya katakan ini..telah menyinggungkan perasaan Tun atau rakyat malaysia...saya disini..minta maaf.akhir kata,Tun saya akan sokong Tun dan doa kepada Tun sekelurga sihat dan terus kan kerja kerja murni untuk menyelamatkan malaysia.Dan...kepada rakyat malaysia....saling hormat-menghormati mesti ditanam sanubari anda.Saya harap Tun jangan berhenti tulis..terus kan Tun.......
isn't there any other way to show displeasure at the current government instead of voting for the opposition? what about not voting at all? do low voter turnouts worry the government?
Dear Tun,
I think this was not managed properly!
I could imagine if this happens during your time, it would have been settled easily.
Tun,
I never regarded you as Anti-Chinese / racism until you wrote the "Pohon Maaf" article because my family is one of your loyalty supporter/voter during your era. However, thanks for remembering that indian and chinese has been helping Tun in 1999 GE.
Nevertheless Tun, I agree with :
8. I am not defending nor do I like what Ahmad Ismail of Bukit Bendera said. It does not contribute to lessening the tension between the races. But I feel disgust at the inability of the present Malay leadership to manage racialism. It is degrading for the second highest leader in the Government to be apologising for every instance of improper behaviour by UMNO members.
9. The person who should apologise should be the culprit himself. If he refuses then he should face the UMNO disciplinary committee.
Assalamualaikum,
Pendapat saya: Apabila TPM yang meminta maaf atas tindakan individu yang mengeluarkan kenyataan bersifat perkauman, ia sedikit sebanyak seolah-olah menggambarkan bahawa itu adalah pendirian UMNO..
Semoga dirahmati Allah, dipanjangkan usia dan sihat selalu, Tun.
Jika mengikut definisi kata-kata Ahmad dari UMNO Bkt Bendera:
Moyang rakyat malaysia keturunan Cina ialah Pendatang.
jadi,
rakyat malaysia keturunan Cina ialah Pendatang.
jika ini disetujui , maka ..
Ayahanda Tun Dr. Mahathir berasal dari Kerala, India,
Ayahanda Tun Dr. Mahathir ialah pendatang.
Maka, Tun Dr. Mahathir ialah pendatang.
keturunan Tun juga ialah pendatang.
Salah !! ini semua salah... mengikut definisi Melayu dlm perlembagaan Malaysia ialah mereka yg mengamalkan budaya dan istiadat melayu dan beragama Islam, maka Tun ialah Melayu. Begitu juga dgn Cina Malaysia, mereka ada rakyat Malaysia mengikut perlembagaan , bukannya pendatang !!!
Hi Tun,
I would like to share something with you... I really think whats happening in malaysia currently was something that no one dreamt about...But i just wondering why you against the appology of an UMNO member about their comments pertaining " PENDATANG ".Is it a must to say such things at the first place at the open ceramah?
Say for example, if this had seen uttered by non malays to malays will the UMNO be silent ? According to my personal view, appology is indicated in this aspect.
Top leadership Of UMNO had appologised, and you said they scared of chinese and indians, but why they must be scared about them?
Kindly explain Tun
Thanks
Tun, Thank you for pohon maaf 2. Reading your pohon maaf 1 was deeply troubling to those who have been your faithful subjects for all these years.
tun,
skang mmg ramai yg tak paham bahasa.. bila kepala tak paham bahasa.. berjangkit la pada org2 kat bwh.. tu la umno skang..
yg pembangkang plak.. mmg dari dulu suka pusing2 crita.. tak reti nak berubah.. nak2 pasal kenyataan tun lawak minta maap pasal anwar dulu.. hehe... pelik la diaong ni..
apa pun harap tun teruskan menulis..
salam..
Salam Tun,
Pada pendapat saya, orang Cina menggunakan politik untuk memastikan suasana hidup yang lebih produktif tetapi Melayu menggunakan politik untuk hidup, atau hidup dalam politik. Setiap perkara perlu di politikkan ! :(
Dari dulu saya mengagumi Tun...bukannya membabi buta. kalau yang salah, saya katakan salah. Tapi yang pasti, saya dapat menerima segala pendapat Tun dan saya sanjungi wawasan Tun. Dan jika ada tindakan Tun yang agak 'pelik', saya akan katakan pada diri sendiri.... pasti ada sesuatu yang saya tidak tahu. Tun tidak akan memperbodohkan diri begitu saja.. Jadi saya sabar, reserved my comments dan akhirnya, ternyata Tun benar juga.
Racist dan perkauman TIDAK SAMA ! sifat Perkauman ada pada semua manusia, kerana Tuhan jadikan kita berkaum2 maka normal la kita memperjuangkan kaum kita. Tapi bila sudah terlalu extreme ke tahap merendah2kan kaum lain... makanya itu baru racist. Tun bukan racist... tapi pejuang kaum Melayu and to a larger extend...pejuang bangsa Malaysia !
assalamualaikim Tun,
sejak akhir-akhir ini saya juga berasa sedih dan terkesan dihati saya tentang isu meminta maaf yang dilakukan oleh TPM.Seperti yang Tun tulis di artikel pohon maaf 1 amatlah tidak adil kepada melayu sendiri apabila kaum lain yang sewenang-wenangnya mempermainkan kedaulatan bangsa melayu di Malaysia.Dan lagi menyedihkan apabila perdana menteri dan timbalannya terhegeh-hegeh meminta maaf kepada kum cina dan india.Nampak sangat mereka ini terlalu takut dan boleh dikatan sebagai pengecut sehingga membiarkan perkara ini berlaku.Menang sorak kampung tergadai.
Assalamualaikum wbr...
Tun,
Selamat berpuasa dan berterawikh...
1. Soal ketuanan Melayu, itu bukan satu isu di Malaysia. Sepatutnya tidak disenaraikan untuk diperbincangkan.
2. Perjanjian antara kaum telah menetapkan begitu. Nilainya hak kewarganegaraan diberi kepada orang cina dan india. Itu adalah sejarah.
3. Jika hak sama rata diberi, maka pandangan peribadi saya menyatakan hak kewarganegaraan terpaksa ditarik balik.Betul? Soalnya, untuk membebaskan soal bangsa dan sama rata adalah melalui asimilasi kaum.
4. Dalam hal ini, sekolah satu sistem perlu diwujudkan,SJKC dan SJKT perlu dimansuhkan. Bahasa Melayu boleh dipertuturkan dengan fasih bukan pelat atau telo kaum lain. Cuba nilaikan sekarang..adakah semua kaum cina dan india bertutur BM dengan fasih?
5. Fakta, sesebuah negara yang kuat perlu mempunyai satu nilai kebangsaan yang bersatu bukan berbeza.
6. Maka dalam hal ini kaum cina dan india perlu menunjukkan bahawa mereka betul-betul anak jati Malaysia. BUkan sekadar cakap tetapi pelaksanaan secara total. Tunjukkan satu jiwa/wajah Malaysia yang tidak membayangkan Negara China atau INdia.
7. Maaf kalau saya nyatakan di sini, ada ahli parlimen yang tidak fasih bertutur BM. Kelihatan begitu susah benar menyebut sesuatu perkataan. Kadang-kala rasa kasihan pula melihatnya.
*Apa pun ini hanya pendapat berdasarkan pandangan peribadi semata-mata.
i think its normal tun, normal for a great leader.
I totally agree with you, I am a PR supporter but i am a true fan of your visions. I cant believe what this country has become in a short space of six years. Never have I heard so much talk about racism or religion in such offensive manner be it from Malays or non Malays. I am pissed off at PR and also BN for allowing this to come to this level.
Our unity is our strength, divided we fall, I am sure our neighboring countries must be laughing at us for what we are going trough as a nation. Its time to stop all this rubbish and get back to the task of building our country.
Tun , i totally feel you anger at the current media because whatever you say seems to be twisted by the media goons!!
Anyways god bless you and your family,stay in good health and all the best to mukriz, I hope he kicks that jerk KJ out!!!!!
Assalamualaikum Tun,
Para 13 is very true in every essence of the words.I can't help thinking this is the real message that Tun try to convey to all those ungrateful so-called leaders.Shame on them.
Thank you Tun for the explanation.
You always say practical things.
You always call a spade, a spade.
Syabas Tun,it's high time for all malaysian to relise what "HARMONI"have benifit us all these while even we lost some of our own pride and dignity just to make other people happy, as long dont ask too much htan what they can swallow.
Assalamualaikum wbt.
Ayahanda Tun & bonda yang dikasihi,
POHON MAAF(2)
1.PENJELASAN TUN INI MUGA PEMIMPIN DAN RAKYAT MALAYSIA LEBIH JELAS, TUN BUKANLAH BERSIFAT PERKAUMAN.LEBIH PRIHATIN PADA KAUM MELAYU SAJA.
2.NAJIB PATUT MINTA MAAF PADA KAUM MELAYU,DAN AAB AKUILAH KELEMAHAN SENDIRI, LAMBAT MENANGANI APA APA JUA ISU BUATKAN MALAYSIA KUCHAR KACHIR.KALAU AMBIL KEPUTUSAN PULA,FLIP FLOP PULA JADINYA.UNDURLAH...
3.PALING MENDUKACITAKAN,MESYUARAT BARISAN NASIONAL TAK ADAKE..BILA TARIKH TERAKHIR MESYUARAT?..
4.MESYUARAT MAJLIS TERTINGGI UMNO PATUT DIADAKAN SELEPAS PRK PERMATANG PAUH, DIBATALKAN.MACAM NAK LARI DARI MASAALAH
......
5.SELAMAT BERBUKA TUN DAN KELUARGA
Dearest Tun,
Thanks for the explanation. everything is clear as daylight.
Salam Ybhg Tun,
Its a sad state that we are in right now and the future of ours and our children are totally at the mercy of certain number of individuals that may eventually lead us further into or if we are lucky out of this predicament.
As it is we only have hope for YBhg Tun to make some sort of a comeback.
regards
Assalamualaikum dan selamat berpuasa kepada Tun dan semua ahli keluarga.
Malang sekali bagi kita orang melayu melihat Menteri kita terpaksa Memohon Maaf kepada orang2 pendatang tu.
Kita lihat lah sampai bila orang2 Melayu khasnya orang UMNO akan sedar akan kesilapan mereka ini.
Walau apa2 pun Tun, diharap akan terus menulis sekaran orang tak jemu membaca tulisan TUN.
Selamat BERBUKA PUASA TUN DAN KELUARGA.
salam Tun...
saya masih sedih di mana pemimpin2 melayu kini masih tidak bersuara...
mana perginya pemimpin yang kononnya parti Islam?
apa pendirian kononya ''The Prime Minister in Future''?
long life Tun's..
selamat berpuasa..
apa-apa pun tun kami tetap berdiri di belakang tun,biarpun tun masih jugak dilabel oleh sesetengah pihak sebagai orang yang mengamalkan perkauman dan seorang malay ultra tiada kami kisah.Kami sentiasa menyokong Tun dulu,kini dan selama-lamanya.Hidup Tun hidup melayu
Assalamualaikum dan selamat berpuasa kepada Tun dan semua ahli keluarga.
Malang sekali bagi kita orang melayu melihat Menteri kita terpaksa Memohon Maaf kepada orang2 pendatang tu.
Kita lihat lah sampai bila orang2 Melayu khasnya orang UMNO akan sedar akan kesilapan mereka ini.
Walau apa2 pun Tun, diharap akan terus menulis kerana orang tak pernah jemu membaca tulisan TUN.
Selamat BERBUKA PUASA TUN DAN KELUARGA.
Salam Ramadhan buat Tun sekeluarga. saya sentiasa memberi sokongan kepada Tun.
Kepada sesiapa yg salah faham ttg artikel tun sblm ini (terutamanya kepada yang bukan melayu),tolong baca skali lagi dan fahamkan.
Tq. selamat berbuka puasa kepada seluruh umat Islam.
Ya Allah selamatkanlah negaraku ini. Amin.
Dear Tun Mahathir,
I'm a Malaysian Chinese. Tun has always been the No.1 leader whom I respect the most and I pledge my 100% support and loyalty to Tun forever, more than what I would do to any other Chinese leaders.
Even though we are from different races, we share the same dream, the dream which Tun once called Bangsa Malaysia. Are we still moving towards achieving that identity, Tun?
Your "POHON MAAF" article yesterday has made many people like me feel disappointed and confused. Many people could be made more confused, and the racial tension would become worse. Dahlah Pak Lah tak dapat "settle" cepat-cepat, Tun pula nampak gaya nak besarkan api.
Tun should have said something to bring the people together and let the issue be forgotten and a lesson learned. Even if deep in your heart Tun still "sayangkan Melayu yang mudah lupa", maybe Tun should show that Tun "lebih sayangkan Bangsa Malaysia"...
Nevertheless, we'll forgive Tun, we still believe in Tun's dream for a true "Bangsa Malaysia". It may take another 50, 100 or 200 years to become a reality, but the hope should never die...
Tun, selamatkanlah harapan Bangsa Malaysia!
Semoga sihat selalu & selamat berpuasa!
salam tun,
it is an interesting fact when you pointed out that the chinese actually did support you more than the general malays in 1999. i was in a local university in those years where the 1997 sacking of anwar and the economic downturn occured. the chinese seemed to be very grateful at your ability to strengthen the economy despite the general landslide occuring in neighbouring countries, while the malays generally were pissed at what you did to anwar.
the malays seemed to not be able to look beyond the morality of the issue, while the chinese only concerned about what affects them (and that's the economy). majority of malays worked for either the government or somebody else, hardly in charge of economy, so the economic downturn didn't really affect them as much as the chinese.
nowadays it seemed that there is a growing number of chinese whom clearly labelling you as an ultra-malay, a racist. the internet have played a big role in this, from personal blogs to community forums. the problem is, nobody cares to fix or correct the issue, or at least to shed some light into the thoughts or motivations behind certain actions deemed racist by them. heck, even naive nationalism have been deemed racist. look at what happened to datuk hishamuddin hussein onn. the whole keris wielding/kissing is now a fiasco all over youtube. i just feel that racism is such an overrated word that anything that even touches about race is racism! it's absurd!
notable people need to put up their thoughts online so that others could refer. nowadays thoughts from the opposition are more widely available than others. it easily feeds them with ideas. malaysians are still naive with lack of real sense of criticism. they are more willing to absorb ideas that conform to conspiracy theories (conjectures, opinions etc) than on real facts. i blame the x-files phenomena.
hence i commend your almost daily submission of thoughts online. it is one of the most effective ways to connect to your fellow malaysians in this age.
Assalamualaikum Tun.
Pada hemat saya isu racist ni timbul bila pihak itu sendiri yang berkehendakkan racist tersebut. Tetapi hakikatnya kadangkala sesuatu kenyataan yang di luahkan itu langsung tidak kena-mengena dengan racist ini. Mereka hanya melabel yang sesuatu isu itu sebagai racist kerana mereka sendiri yang hendak walhal ia tidak wujud. Kesan dari itu bila semua pihak nampak sesuatu itu sebagai racist lahirlah golongan-golongan yang mengambil kesempatan dari isu begini. Saya amat menyokong UMNO sebelum ini. Tetapi kadangkala bangsa melayu sendiri lupa akan apa yang di perjuangkan oleh rakan-rakan seperjuangan mereka sendiri. Saya teringat akan kata-kata arwah atuk saya, "aku kesian dengan arwah nenek kau, meeting cawangan sana-sini, kempen sana sini dah tak ada pun bukan dio orang (umno cawangan) tau." Maksud saya disini kadangkala mereka yang memperjuangkan hak-hak melayu ini langsung tak terselit dijiwa mereka ini pasal racist. Sebab sepanjang pengetahuan saya arwah nenek saya ini tiada masalah dengan bangsa lain sedangkan hakikatnya beliau penyokong kuat UMNO. Adakah kerana seseorang itu menyokong perjuangan UMNO mereka terus digelar racist. Apa yang saya nampak sekarang itu yang cuba di mainkan oleh pihak pembangkang. UMNO hanya akan kekal selama-lamanya jika AAB di turunkan dari takhta beliau.
Wallahualam.
-revolutionist-
Assalamualaikum
1. Tun adalah pejuang bangsa yang sejati, jujur tegas dan ikhlas.
2. Ciri-ciri di ataslah yang menyebabkan ketika zaman pemerintahan Tun bangsa zAmelayu dihormati.
3. Sekarang??
Pak Long, Alor Star
wahai org melayu, jgn lah sampai kita di perkotak katikkn. bangun, pertahankn melayu! jgn menjadi melayu dayus! saya sokong kenyataan datuk ahmad Ismail! Kamu tidak keseorangan! jgn kamu berumah di tepi pantai jika takut di lambung ombak.
SALAM TUN N SELAMAT BERBUKA PUASA...
for me, INI MERUPAKAN PETANDA POSITIF BAHAWA SEMANGAT PERPADUAN DIKALANGAN RAKYAT MALAYSIA SEMAKIN KUAT....KENAPA? KERNA MEREKA TIDAK LAGI MENOLEH ERA PARTI YANG MENGUTAMAKAN KAUM MASING-MASING....MEREKA MENCARI PARTI YANG BERPAKSI BANGSA MALAYSIA....NAMUN IA MENJADI KUCAR KACIR TATKALA SEMANGAT PERPADUAN YANG TELAH DIPUPUK SELAMA 50 TAHUN INI DIBAYANGI SIFAT KEKENDIRIAN PERKAUMAN YANG MASIH MENEBAL....LIHAT NEGARA INDONESIA...KAUM CINA DISANA SUDAH SEPERTI KAUM MELAYU INDONESIA, MNGAMALKAN TATACARA MASYARAKAT INDONESIA...BEGITU JUGA NEGARA FILIPINA DAN THAILAND....MASING-MASING DIBAWAH SATU NEGARA BANGSA...
TETAPI TUN, BENAR JUGA TANAH INI, HAK INI HARUS DIJAGA....BAGI SAYA YANG SETAHUN JAGUNG INI BELUM MERASA APA YANG PERNAH DIRASA TUK NENEK MOYANG SAYA DAHULU....
SALAM TUN...
am i the 1st....
well...being opposition is difficult in malaysia..
mungkin dulu tun tak merasa, la ni pula merasanye..
nak buat mcm mana...
nasi da jd bubur...
Deep inside everybody, there is racism. Its just preference towards your own race compared to the others. Just to what extent your racism is will shape your actions. Everyone prefer what belongs to them and where they are belonged. Is`t it just natural?
Kepimpinan UMNO terlalu lemah hingga kaum lain berani memperkecilkan pendapat orang Melayu dan memperbesarkan kesalahan orang Melayu. Lagi pula, mereka ada orang seperti Anwar yang sedang menangguk di air yang keruh.
www.jurublog.blogspot.com
Kepada Rakyat Malaysia... Ini bukan racists, Bukalah kembali buku sejarah Malaysia.. memang pahit untuk terima, tapi ini kenyataan ~
Selamat Berpuasa Tun ~
komen saya sebelum ini gagal?
Salam kepada semua,
'Maaf' adalah satu perbuatan terpuji
Tetapi agak sukar untuk melakukanya
Maaf yang datang dari rasa insaf akan majurus kepada kedamaian
Maaf yang terhasil dari paksaan tidak akan membawa manfaat
Orang yang berjaya memaksa supay sesaorang itu memohon maaf ia akan meresa dirinya amat berkuasa, angkuh dan bertambah sombong
Bukan menyokong supaya YB Ahmad Ismail tidak memohon maaf
tetapi sekiranya ia berpunca dari putarbelit si pelapor, saya berpendapat tidak perlu mohon maaf.
Sekedar pandangan...
Dear tun,
Selamat berbuka puasa.
Salam Tun,
May ALLAH bless you TUN.
Really hope TUN can make it, this thing possible! Always & Forever support you TUN.
An Inspirational Legacy
This is real dilemma.
Selamat berbuka puasa Tun.
Salam Tun dan selamat berbuka puasa.
It is extremely very difficult to manage a multiracial and multi religion country as Malaysia. Our past leaders had managed to control their racial emotions? but why current leaders cannot do the same? I wonder ?
Tun,
Yes you are so damn right! That Ahmad fella should apologise and no one else. For him, on his behalf or under him! If he doesn't, than it is up to that 2 eunuchs we call PM and DPM to crack the damn whip and make his ass a pretty flower motive for batik printing!
As for you, I dont think you are a racist or ultra Malay. I suppose amongst all the movers and shakers we have in Malaysia, may it be politicians, enterpreneurs, tycoons, leaders - pass and present, you have been rather fair to all. Ok la.. sometimes you do say and do things that are in favour of your race and piss others (me included) off but I suppose that is only human. You are afterall, human and like all human, got preference and "buah hati" mah! As long as you dont go overboard, it is fine by me. Those times when you are crappy and bias, I suppose I have no qualms bashing you up in here. Heh! Heh! Heh!
Seriously, inspite of what people have to say about you.. the best so far I have read/heard is 'FATHER OF ALL RACIST', you have not deprieve the other races from wealth and prosperity during your tenure. To me, that is good enough.. racist or not!
Assalamualaikum Tun,
what ever mintak maaf of what ever matter it is, I hope there will be no more 16th of May in this land of bless of God.
What ever race you are, we should know from where we belong.
"Wahai manusia sesungguhnya kami jadikan kamu lelaki dan perempuan dan kami jadikan kamu berbangsa-bangsa dan berpuak-puak supaya kamu kenal-mengenal. Sesungguhnya sebaik-baik kamu di sisi Allah ialah yang paling bertakwa di antara kamu." (Al-Hujurat: 13)
I don't care who you are and what is your believe just think and gaze the ayat above.
We all pendatang. Malay from Yunan, Chinese from China and Indian from India and we should know that we all pendatang but the Malay has been here for several centuries ago before Chinese and Indian.
So, God has create us as multiple human race and religion and what we are fighting for. Just unite for our Malaysia and kick off the cancer leader which will be darah and nanah in our community.
Allah Save us!
Allah Save Malaysia!
Allah Selamatkan UMNO!
tun,im a Malaysian(Tamil) and i know u are not a racist but your previous post did make me feel sad but this post did clarify your position.Tun, why dont you start a non political organisation for the youth around Malaysia.Many Malaysians will join it.Lets discuss everthing there.By creating a avenue like that it will be your another great contribution to Malaysia.The organisation can create new leaders as you will be the mentor.Everyone that has been commenting your post here in CHE DET can be there and share their ideas openly too.
Tun,pls do consider this suggestion.
Salam Ayahanda Tun,
First and formost, kindly allow me to apologize for being hasty to have doubted you.
Initially, I misunderstood that you were impling that Ahmad need not apologize and that, there were some what, some truth in his statement. Now I fully understands.
Sorry Tun.
Why you so worried about Tun? I'm with you and i believe more people out there always give you support..! If they said(non-malay)you are "rasist", so am i..! Is it they wanna arrest me? It's not wrong to defend your bangsa and Tun, you had a great gift from Allah and you have to use it with honour..i'm always with you..may Allah bless us..
Tun:
I understand and got the points which you try to send out from your posts , i guess.
Tun, I dont think you are a racist person though. Well just yesterday I have written an article about PERANAN ISLAM DI PENTABIRAN MALAYSIA in my blog.
I would like Tun to have a look on my summarize writing there. Tun can go to
http://crazyellysee.blogspot.com/2008/09/peranan-islam-dalam-pentadbiran.html#links
for the article
or
else Tun may refer to below which is the "copy&paste" (version) of my article writing.
Before Tun read on that article, I would like to ask for forgiveness if I did write something wrong there or mis-interpret the ideas which I tried to show.
Islam's role on Malaysia administration.
T.D Mahathir practised "Islamisasi/Islam" during his ruling time.
He seemed to be very success on practising such legacy on his politic ruling time.
He has been known as "Islam Mahathir"
He said:
"Legitimacy is also promted trough attention to emotional and material appetites and in the case of the former, these are usually fed by symbols, relevant to their time, in order to substain the political system."
History/Entry:
At the very first beginning, Islam had been practised by Malay to show their loyalty toward their ruler/Raja whom has been regarded as the authority full with the religional power rationalized through the teaching of Islam.
Religion was once the supporting vote's attractor by the authorities in Malay's political stream. But during 1946, all of these have changed.
UMNO has been set up where it has replaced the "system "BERAJA"" in Malay's community.
UMNO make those Raja(s) lose their ruling power to P.M; they remain their honourable title "raja" and sit as powerless one than PM.
Islam remains as the main religion for Malaysia. The position of Ismam in the country allow the gov't to do things with respect of their religion and other religions beside than Islam also been allowed to practise in a peaceful and harmony mode..
Compare with other people whom live in muslim country, I think we (non-muslim)can considered as one of the fortunate one where majority of them are not allow to practise their religion freely (*even the country leader say/state they could,but actually they got no right/freedom ). They have alot of limitation and restrictions on their respective religional welfares/practises.
The best example:
We can find temples, church and mosques any where in Malaysia but it is very hard for us to find temples and churches in other islamic countries like where I'm in now.
I feel a bit proud with Malaysia's syariah laws and i think our religional administration is far more better than other muslim countries,at least some FAIR treats they give to us. There isnt any public restriction on what type of fashion you wear, non-muslims are allow to practise their respective religions freely in this country, you can buy pork/alcoholic drinks in the market, you will not been sue or under any syariah laws if you arent involve with religion case and others.
For other muslim country, most of the people (non-muslim) are treat with unfair +unreasonable religional laws act by the authority. There isnt any other option for non-muslim students whom study in some muslim's country govt insitution where they are asked to study Islamic religional studies as their compulsory session.
D.Mahathir did say,
" ...It is known fact that muslim countries control most of the world natural resources then and even today. Yet, muslims countries are generally caught in their own quaqmires of abject poverty and internal violences. There are more intra-muslim conflicts within muslim countries and between muslim countries, than these are between muslims and their detractors"
"...In a world domninated by the big powers where none is Islamic, where such injustic exists that muslims without weapons are left slaughtered by their enemies, where an Islamic country can be isolated and its people made to die of starvation, and where muslims are fighting each other, and who are confused by their own teaching; are backward, poor and weak; can they enjoy any benefit from 21st century."
I'm really agree with this, It always happen in our country even the neighbouring country where I'm in now. Really sad reafard to that matters.
**For your information, I don't against any religion, but if you want me to respect your religions...Please , show your full respect on your own religion first before asking others to respect!
Most people think that T.D Mahathir's vision towards Wawasan 2020 as his own aim to make Malaysia become a developed Islamic state. He wants his people able/manage to campete with the modern and latest technology and economy.
During 1984, T.D Mahathir has announced that he wanted to establish Malaysia's gov't with "the concept of development in Islam".
He also did stregthen on most of the Islamic regions/countries are undeveloped as well as left behind by the modern tech era just because most of them eager to accept the extra/other knowledges which other than religional study.
Like what been admitted by Sheikh Muhammad Hisham Kabbani, the chairman of OIC (U.S):
"...we (muslim) used to be the creators of scientific ideology and medicine. We lost it because we lost our ethics. We have become egoistic...
we must cooperate among ourselves to regain the former glory of Islam. We brought many technological changes to the world before losing our creative talents to our egos. We were jealous of seeing others do better than us. We must keep up our competitive spirit to work towards enchancing our lives in line with the advancement of the world.:
I think what he said is right. I think it shouldnt only apply to muslim but also to non-muslims.
Seem like everyone of us live in jealousy and selfishness.
Instead of thinking of the most slick way/jealous to other's success..
Why dont we build up competitive spirit to work towards our aim/success???
Thats right, I have asked some of my Muslim friends. Most of them dont admit to that fact.
T.D Mahathir always hold his stragety on his logic on which he think invoking Islam for national endervours to achieve economic progress and development to raise race and nation.
From my view,
Instead of trying to spread the teaching of Islam (priest/Iman) to the community, he is trying to use his own religion to stregthen his own belief;)
**to be continue
Referrence: Book, Legasi Mahathir by Sivamurangan Pandian.
Thank You
Hui Ling.
Let them think what they want to think. Our fight must go on. You have proven to us all long time ago that you are not "ultra-Malay".
Diharap segala kekeruhan akan segera jernih. Anggap apa yang telah berlaku sebagai pengajaran.....ARB Dagang
Salam TUN,
I agree with you,
5. Far from the opposition's "win" being brought about by rejection of racial politics, it has actually enhanced racial politics.
Which political Party can guarantee us they never touch on their own race for their survival?.
Even DAP , still promoting Chinese School .
They are more racist than us...
Only the good leader able to be Malaysia PM. It is you .. TUN.
Salam
1. What Ahmad said is unbecoming of a leader, albeit a small timer in penang, as his irresponsible utterence maybe deemed as the truth by the ill informed.
2. I agree with you that it is unbecoming for the deputy pm to apologise on behalf of ahmad when ahamd was the person who has blundered.
3. It just shows that there is a serious revolt within UMNO and that the present leaders are not respected by the branch leaders.
Selamat berbuka puasa Tun..
apa nak jadi jadilah,...
eden tak kiro..
Salam AYAHANDA RAKYAT TUN,
Izinkan anakanda rakamkan semula komentar yang dipostkan
dihalaman sebelum ini.
PERHAPS, IN THIS BLESSED MONTH OF RAMADHAN ALMUBARAK, WE, THE ANAKANDA RAKYAT CHEDET.COM SHOULD REFRAIN FROM UTTERING WORDS LACED WITH 'CURSES' AND CONTROL OUR EMOTIONS TO A MORE SENSIBLE LEVEL.
WE BELIEVE PAK LAH HAVE MADE A 'GRAVE' MISTAKE BY ALLOWING THE 4TH FLOOR 'LITTLE NAPOLEANS' TO DICTATE HIS ADMINISTRATION BUT THEN WHO CUD BLAME HIM WHEN HE WAS 'TRAUMATISED' BY THE GRAVE ILLNESS OF HIS VERY VERY DEAR AND BELOVED WIFE(NOW DECEASED)
AS MUCH AS WE ACCEPTED HIS PREDICAMENT THEN, HE HAS TO ACCEPT THE CONSEQUENCES OF HIS DOINGS BY DOING THE HONOUR OF GRACEFULLY STEPPING DOWN FROM THE HELM OF THE GOVERNMENT SOONEST POSSIBLE TO CORRECT THE MISTAKES COMMITTED.
PLEASE, PAK LAH, THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN NOT ONCE BUT TWICE.
YOU WUD BE DOING US A GREAT FAVOUR AND SAVE US FROM BEING 'COLONISED' AGAIN, SOMETHING 'TABOO' TO AYAHANDA TUN AND THE RAKYAT OF THIS BLESSED NATION.
Alfatihah, Amin
TUN
Kita hanya nak menegakkan hak saja bukan bersikap "racist".mereka tak kacau hak kita.sepuluh kali kita tak kacau hak mereka..persoalannya jangan kacau hak saja.. itu sahaja. benda dah termaktub kena perlua meraka ganggu .. tu sahaja sekian
Rindukan waktu Tun jadi Perdana Menteri..negara disegani begitu juga rakyat dari bukan bumiputera..
Salam Tun & Keluarga,
This makes me think much about the Palestinian's debacles. The Palestinian were robbed of their homeland and lives. But sadly they ended up being labelled 'terrorists'.
Too much similarities.
Salam Tun.
Apologies from Najib indeed is degrading. The possibility of him being directed to do so by non other than his boss could not be ruled out as he is now a yes man. Najib supporters now feel that he should not take over from AAB instead somebody else is much welcome. Najib has lost credibility and should be retired together with his boss this coming December.
As a Malay I wonder why everybody else keep quiet and dare not stand and speak for the rights of the Malays. What do they fight for in MT UMNO at the first place. Of course we all already knew that material gain is their first priority that's what made us mad as hell. Or is it that when the boss is dumb, the followers too becoming dumber.
Be honest to the Chinese & Indians. Tell them once for all that it is not wrong to say that they were sons and grandsons of immigrants. Do they want to deny that remarks ?
Then they will resort to saying that the Malays too are immigrants. Yes, we do not deny that but loooong before the colonialist were here, this formation of islands are called Malay Archipelagos. Malays hopped freely from here and there without restrictions until the whiteman came and invade. Conned the Sultans to cease the land. Go and check the DNA and you will discover that the specimen came from the same roots of Malay blood.
We should remind them that this land has its Sultans from among the Malays. That they should respect the Malays and not stir the racial sentiments by questioning the Malay rights. Tell them that as host of this nation we fear to lose out in share of the economy as we were left behind so far away. So don't argue our rights for economics attainment.
Is that very hard to say Pak Lah.
Good Evening Sir
Perhaps you have forgotten that during your tenure as well as other PM's time, there were people that had said something in similar lines. Our current DPM i believe was also running around wielding the keris :) during your tenure.
Its just that the situation now is a little different and people tend to make it an issue. Or perhaps the media is opening up their eyes to this or have more guts to flame this in the papers.
I do agree that the chinese and indians are "pendatang". But aren't we all pendatang in one way or the other?
I sure do hope that we look forward and address issues such as this in a proper manner.
Hypocrisy is in action here since we are born. We are taught in sekolah kebangsaan that we are malaysians but in reality the rules are different when we step out of our schools.
The root causes has to be examined... from young we are taught to be separated here ..... i am from a malay school, i am from a chinese school, i am from a tamil school... and i am a ministers son from an international school.
Where can this end if the starting itself is wrong.
My 2 cents.
Selamat Berbuka :)
Tun. Well said.
things not happen does not mean it is not exist!
cuma ada orang yang lebih pandai bermain dalam permainan.
can YOU please see us as malaysian !
not as chiness ! indian ! or malay !
maybe we have different defination of racist .
but you are definetly one !
Salam Tun. Sebenarnya kalau nak dikirakan ramai orang Melayu Malaysia pun adalah kaum pendatang : Bugis, Boyan, Jawa, Madura, Minang dll. Jadi istilah 'pendatang' jgnlah diperpanjangkan. Jgn telalu sensitif dan mencari kesilapan orang. Kalau yg punya diri tak mahu minta maaf, yang jadi pemimpin spt TPM tak perlulah minta maaf bagi pihak UMNO/BN. Cukup cuma kata itu bukan pendiriaan kerajaan dan pendapat itu adalah pendapat peribadi. Saya merayu org Melayu jgn terus berbalah. Ini semua bukan saja kerana pemerintahan Pak Lah yg lembek, flip flop, tapi juga kerana hasutan Anwar. Pak Lah lepaskan anjing yg tersepit. Jadi macam2 masalah timbul sekarang. Tiada cara lain utk menyelamatkan UMNO kecuali Pak Lah berundur secara hormat. Penggantinya perlulah dipilih dlm pemilihan parti, bukan org yg dilantik Pak Lah. Itu baru adil dan rakyat akan terima siapa juga yg menang dlm pemilihan Presiden Disember nanti. Org2 Melayu Singapura tumpang gembira kalau UMNO dah dapat dipulihk semula.
Salam Tun,
Walau bagaimanapun, post sebelum ini telahpun menimbulkan perasaan perkauman dan menyemarakkan api...
Negara kita tak perlukan api sebegini...
Tanggungjawab parti politik adalah membangunkan negara, bukan menimbulkan masalah.
Selamat berpuasa.
Dear Tun,
1. I have commented on your 1st pohon-maaf.
2. I think if you read back your witting after 2 week, you will agree with me. You sounded racist, you compared what Datuk Ahamd said with what Wee and Hindraf did.
3. Maybe you were upset when you compose the pohon-maaf(1).
4. As you, I also agree, I voted for PR not that I though PR can do better, it's a way I as a 'typical' citizen can punish the arrogant BN. trust me, I have 4-kids, I know my vote will determined their future, but I had no choice.
5. But I can agree for a leader to be racist. The should demonstrate high standard.
6. Why Najib apologize is something I can't understand and agree with.
7. Maybe this show's both Pak-lah and Najib is not strong and can not control their team-mates.
8. More reason to vote PR, unless others in BN does something. (well everyone know what it is)
Take care your health.
1. Orang cina di negara china mempunyai policy untuk melindungi negara mereka.Begitu juga negara2 Asia lain, Europe, US.
2. Di UK, kebanyakkan policy diluluskan untuk menjaga hak penduduk mereka, walaupun, mereka mengiktiraf penduduk luar (e.g. pakistan and India sebagai penduduk tetap).
3. Yang sungguh melawakkan, apabila ada pemimpin melayu dan islam, beriya-iya, mahu menyamaratakan hak ini bagi memancing undi. Dan, ada ramai pula penyokong mereka.Melayu dan Islam.
4. Mereka sebenarnya sudah tahu tetang hak2 melayu, dan kita memberikan taraf kerakyatan kepada mereka. Kita memberikan kebebasan beragama dan mengunakan bahasa dan lain-lain.
5. Mereka bukan tak faham, malah sengaja tidak mahu faham.
6. Semua orang boleh bercakap, tapi beberapa orang yang mahu melaksanakannya.
Hafiz Rohafiz Sabar
Cranfield UK.
Assalamualaikum Tun
Bukan salah Tun pun..Tun manusia biasa...mesti ada marah,suka,sayang..etc...apa yang cuba Tun sampaikan adalah apa yang terbuku di hati Tun..Yang bestnya Tun bersifat terbuka..kan itu lebiih baik. Org yg baca pulak, jaga salah faham..cuba betul2 hayati apa yang cuba disampaikan oleh Tun..kepada semua rakyat Malaysia dan pemimpin2nya..dulu atau sekarang...apa yang saya nak adalah keharmonian, kecermelangan dan kemajuan yang dicapai oleh semua pihak didalam negara kita yang berbilang bangsa. Saya bangga jadi rakyat Malaysia...tapi saya benci org yng menjual maruahnya bangsanya semata2 demi diri sendiri. Saya sayang Tun dan kami rakyat Malaysia sangat terdesak mencari pemimpin yang mampu menyelamatkan Malaysia. Ya Allah, bantu lah kami. Amin
Tun....
http://nawawidahalan.blogspot.com/
ada ulasan tentang perkauman...
keadaan ketegangan kaum makin memuncak kerana BN hilang kuasanya dan seterusnya tiada lagi asas atau base untuk bergerak. Dan ini menjadikan parti itu tak dapat mengawal negara dan terpaksa mencari sokongan dengan apa cara sekalipun. Contohnya timbalan perdana menteri minta maaf.
Pekara semacam ini tak akan terjadi kalau kita ada kepimpinan yang kuat dan bijak serta amanah.
Allah S.W.T sajalah dapat membuka hati PM dan Sekutunya letak jawatan.
Terima Kasih.
Dearest TUN...
Spot On Again.!
All these is because we have IDIOTS as leaders..!
PM, TPM, cabinet ministers.. and leaders in UMNO are Idiots..!
Did you hear what and how our 2nd finance minister talked about the budget on TV3..?
Idiots.. in their own world of dreams and comfort zone... All full of Bull...
This is why the People voted the ooposition..
We want new blood.. New faces.. New ways of governing...
We are fedup of the current leadership...
I hope they burn in Hell..
Now.. I agree that we Malays have no one to turn to now.. except for chedet.com
We make the biggest population but we are the ones that are not heard..
For this they will pay dearly.. They will loose the government and power given..
I strongly believe that the Malays will make these idiots listen..
we will be heard.. They are affraid already on the 16th sept issue.. scared..
and they should be.. Terkejut they will be.. Minority they are these idiots.. and they will find out soon.
Malays will prevail.. we are the pribumis... I respect Datuk Ahmad Ismail.!
This is one of the Malay wariors.. I hope more of these kind of people.. Malay people..
Malays Unite.!
Malaysians Unite.!
Salam perjuangan.
Alif Ba Ta..
Salam Tun,
My beloved country not safe anymore?
I miss the way Malaysia was... peaceful... smiles...
I hardly feel it today...
Salam,
Tun Let's take action. Dont let UMNO vanished by the dirty hand.
Regards
Salam Tun,
Bagi saya tidak ada kenyataan 'racist' yang Tun tulis tetapi mereka yang menuduh Tun 'racist' adalah mereka yang sebenarnya 'racist'.
Kerana tidak tercapai akal mereka untuk berdebat dengan Tun secara terhormat maka mereka menggunakan isu 'racist' untuk menenggelamkan fakta dan kebenaran yang diutarakan.
Kami memerlukan pemikiran Tun untuk terus menganalisa corak pucuk pimpinan negara sekarang. Oleh itu kami memerlukan bimbingan dari Tun untuk mengharungi satu lagi 'bencana' kepimpinan yang sedang melanda negara tercinta, Malaysia.
Teruskan perjuangan Tun kerana Allah SWT, insya'allah kami akan terus teguh menyokong Tun..
Salam
Tun, Let's save our country from those who care only their own pocket.
Memang saya sgt marah dgn apa yg tun tulis semalam!!!! Tak faham kenapa seorang pemimpin boleh kata kata begitu?! Tolong jgn main persefahaman antara kaum dgn api
Dearest TUN,
tambah sikit lagi...
Malays should not appologize.. We have done nothing wrong..
The non- malays should appologize to us..
For being kurang ajar when we give them and share with them our country..
If they do not know how to respect us malays than I seriously ask them to either pick up a history book or pack and leave this country..
we have been so open and giving.. too giving and now they want to step on our heads...
Last thing I want to see.. Is people down grading us Malays..
Please respect us.. and we will do the same..
spit at us and we will split you...
With that said.. Hidup Agama, Bangsa and Tanahair..
Alif Ba Ta
most people will think that u always right....
hmm.. i may not know the secret to success, but i do know the secret to failure.. that is to please everyone. tun, be right, or be happy. choice had been urs, n u've chosen well.
Memang pemimpin yang lemah selalu tunduk kepada musuhnya,tunjuk yg dia baik sedangkan dia sedang diperbodohkan
Dear Tun,
1. Thank you for clearing the air. I believe if you had put point 8 and 9 in Pohon Maaf 1 then the response would be very different.
2. It is important to know that our former prime minister view the racial intergration as an integral part of the future of Malaysia.
3. I too believe that during your reign, UMNO was better behave, more well spoken and not racist.
4. I believe the only way to stop racial slur in Malaysia is to put to jail one racist Malay leader from UMNO. That should teach everyone a good lesson. A second offender, if any, should be stripped of citizenship.
Dear Tun,
You have responded with great humility (some might disagree with me) and your immediate reply to comments made by bloggers on your previous posting of the same is really appreciated. I do not think that people will stop supporting you just because of one particular posting seems to be very offensive (for lack of other word).
Salam Yg Bhg Tun,
Just let them say whatever they want to say.
No point trying to explain and educating some people about the situation. They are paranoid lot and are racist(deep within them) themselves.
The wrong is done by one idiot with such a big mouth. The apologies are done hastily by person(s) known to sometimes uttered silly and ridiculous statement on the country's affairs.
Let it be Tun.
1. saya bukan lah peminat che det sebenarnya. namun cetusan idea che det selepas meletakkan jawatan sebagai Perdana Menteri menarik minat saya untuk terus mengikuti perkembangan che det.
2. saya berasa sedih dengan pendapat sesetengah orang bahawa che det bersifat rasis. sejarah telah membuktikan selama 20 tahun lebih che det memimpin Malaysia, semua kaum mendapat layanan yang sama rata. malah kaum cina mampu memegang ekonomi negara dan lebih maju ke depan berbanding melayu sendiri. sebagai generasi baru saya mengikuti perkembangan politik tanah air sejak kecil lagi.. menerusi pembacaan dan menonton berita.
3. mengenai permohonan maaf ni, saya amat bersetuju dengan che det. terasa malu dengan permohonan maaf dari TPM. ape takut sangatkah dia dengan kaum lain? kita juga ada hak untuk bersuara. malah lebih sedih PM sendiri menyuruh Ahmad meminta maaf. sememangnya kepimpinan PM sekarang lemah. namun TPM juga tak bole diharap!
4. saya sekarang belajar di luar negara. dan apabila melihat keadaan politik di malaysia sekarang memang berasa sangat sedih. stabilkah politik kita sekarang ini?? saya amat bersetuju dengan Muhyidin Yasin. pandangan beliau tentang UMNO sangat berbeza dan masih releven dengan perjuangan UMNO.
5. saya mempunyai satu soalan yang saya harap che det mampu memberi jawapan. sekiranya PM sekarang mengundur.. setujukah che det Najib sebagai PM baru? atau Muhyidin lebih layak?
'anti PM dan TPM sekarang...'
::Selamat Berpuasa kepada Che Det dan keluarga dan semua bloggers::
Salam Tun..
"14. Perhaps people should wonder why during the time of the previous four Prime Ministers, who were also Presidents of UMNO, there were no such utterances by UMNO members. And there were practically none from the non-Malays either."
From the statement above we all should wonder why?.Sometimes people don't admit their own mistakes.
nampak gayanya Melayu terus LAYU......
I do agree that you, it is not that we (err..) should at large putting the apology through every channel we have. What the person did, was not reflecting the whole, hence why must he did it (to ask for apology)?
It is perhaps, the tension for him to dream that he will one day assume the post of Number 1 Man in Malaysia. He wants to look good. Merely good enough for him, perhaps.
Do we love Malaysia, of course we do! I'm proud to say im Malaysian (i am?)
But, let us stop pretending and be who we really are.
I dont know, perhaps it is best for me (for us?) to wait and see the destruction of BN, and a new revolution to start over, naturally. We dont have right or left wing. We just have Gov and Opp, and the cycle says, someone later will get on top of the other, and only time will tell us, who will put order to everyone.
Mine? Perhaps time to reap on the uncertainties market and prepare the British Overseas Passport.
Dear Tun and all readers,
I always try to refrain from making remarks which can be deemed as racist. But I always wonder, you have been playing the racial card all along during your premiership and deny that. how can you portray as not racist while you are the implemented all the programmes which sidelined all other races except the so called Bumiputra's
You have said that Malays have kept quiet while non-Malays are making racist remarks. Do you realise that actually it is the other way ? I as a Malaysian Indian was subjected to racial abuse all the while by the Malays but I have not abused them in whatever way. Non-Malays has been patient all the while for the sake of unity but it seems Malays has gone further by making public these abuses. Do not say that the Malays are at the receiving end. All along, it has been non-Malays at the receiving end all the while.
Oops, kononnya ada PART-2.
"8. I am not defending nor do I like what Ahmad Ismail of Bukit Bendera said. It does not contribute to lessening the tension between the races. But I feel disgust at the inability of the present Malay leadership to manage racialism. It is degrading for the second highest leader in the Government to be apologising for every instance of improper behaviour by UMNO members."
"9. The person who should apologise should be the culprit himself. If he refuses then he should face the UMNO disciplinary committee."
Kononnya, Tun bukannya nak lindungi Ahmad tetapi cuma nak bagi tau Ahli UMNO supaya janganlah membuat sesuatu yang tidak bertanggungjawab sehinggalah menyusah-nyusahkan pucuk pimpinan parti/ negara untuk memadam api.
Tetapi kenyataan Tun dalam pohon maaf series-1 mungkin telah memberi semangat bagi Si Ahmad (disebabkan salah-paham dan perasan bahawa veteran tokoh Negara telah memberi sokongan) untuk terus membuat kecoh. (Ahmad janji nak keluarkan press statement besok tentang pendirian tegas beliau- risau betul. sigh.)
Sebenarnya Tun, saya dan rakan-rakan saya (kawan melayu) ingin menyeru kerajaan untuk memansuhkan pengajaran negatif seperti konsep "bermusuhan antara kaum", "pendatang" dsb dalam kursus rasmi kerajaan (seperti kursus induksi dan birotatanegara). Saya tidak nampak pengajaran psycho ini akan menyemai sebarang semangat patriotik untuk anak malaysia, bahkan membantu perpaduan rakyat.
Tun, for Part-2 Pohon Maaf, you've earned due respect. Keep it up.
P/S: harap-harap "part-2 pohon maaf" dah menjelaskan keraguan rakyat malaysia tentang pendirian Tun dan kebimbangan beliau terhadap pucuk kepimpinan sekarang.
sabar je la tok det....tok det da makan?
Tun, I am chinese, I feel I am hurt by Ahmad.
The world belongs to Tuhan, all of us are temporary traveller in this world, very soon we will die and judged by Tuhan.
The principle is simple, love your neighbors and do not hurt them.
Assalamualaikum Ayahanda Tun,
Saya ingin memohon maaf kepada Ayahanda Tun kerana saya tidak dapat menolong dari segi apapun. Saya hanya boleh bersuara melalui blog2 yang ada sahaja sepertimana Ayahanda Tun sekarang.
Saya pun tidak faham mengapa pemimpin yang ada sekarang masih tidak faham mesej2 yang diberikan oleh rakyat. Kalau mereka anggap rakyat ini bodoh dan tak perlu didengar segala kritikan yang diberikan, mengapa nasihat daripada seorang pemimpin yang telah terbukti kewibawaannya seperti Ayahanda Tun juga mereka tidak dengar. Malah dipandang serong oleh mereka ini. Patutlah ramai yang mengatakan pemimpin yang ada sekarang ini bukan sahaja bodoh tetapi sombong. Hanya mementingkan dan memikirkan periuk nasi masing-masing. Saya faham perasaan Ayahanda Tun sekarang.
Mungkin mereka2 ini lebih suka melihat orang Melayu berpecah belah dan tidak dihormati lagi oleh bangsa lain. Mungkin dengan peralihan kuasa secara kekerasan seperti yang digembar-gemburkan oleh Anwar Ibrahim boleh menjadi pengajaran kepada mereka walaupun telah terlewat.
Apa pun saya pohon Ayahanda Tun terus menulis kerana tulisan2 Tun masih diterimapakai oleh majoriti rakyat Malaysia termasuk bangsa lain. Semoga dengan tulisan2 Tun akan memberi kesedaran kepada Melayu yang bukan sahaja berpura2 pekak tetapi juga Tuli dan buta itu.
Selamat Berpuasa kepada Ayahanda Tun sekeluarga semoga sentiasa dilindungi oleh Allah s.w.t.
Dear Tun,
You were asking that why there were no such utterances by UMNO members nor by the non-Malays during the time of 4 other Prime Ministers before Dato Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi had become the Prime Minister. By 'such utterances', I assumed you were referring to the demand with racist tone, which was made by Ahmad Ismail to ask the Chinese Malaysians, whom Ahmad Ismail called 'Pendatang' (literally 'immigrants') despite of the fact that their ancestors and they themselves had become the citizens of Malaysia for about four generations, to leave Malaysia if the Chinese were not happy with their current position in Malaysia.
Let me tell Tun the true reason if Tun really wants to know why. The simple reason is that in the past there was no such thing as internet blogsite even during Tun's era as the Prime Minister of Malaysia and therefore there was not much information, including the racial sensitive information, which was readily available without having to go through the screen by the government censorship and could be heard very easily by most people. The present advance technology of internet has enabled the news to spread fast without any possible effective censorship control that can be imposed by the government. The present widespread use of internet for all aspects of business matters and government official matters has built up a strong economic dependency on internet and has hindered the government from the discretion to impose censorship on internet freely. The advance of technology has enabled much more people to access to certain information within a short period of time without much hindrance and therefore has enabled better freedom of speech and freer freedom of press at the present era. However, the advance in technology provides no assurance that the mentality of humans will automatically be improved and uplifted to a higher level above the narrow-minded racism.
When there were a few UMNO members seeing that racism would be the best hands-on and cost-free weapon readily available for use to incite the Malays' emotion for purpose of mobilising political support around themselves, especially in the midst of the carry-out of party election within UMNO, then there would be no surprise for us to hear more and more about such racist utterances that were being rhetorically voiced out by the ill-willed but ambitious politicians such as Ahmad Ismail. The non-Malays would always have a bottom line to defend for the common interest of survival as the minority group in Malaysia if and only if this bottom line had been encroached by any person or persons of malicious intent.
As for the case of Admad Ismail, he was probably going too far and was overdoing it by asking the Malaysian citizens of Chinese origin to leave Malaysia as according to Ahmad Ismail, if they were not happy with the current status they had been treated in Malaysia. This offensive demand was viewed by many Chinese Malaysians as if a stranger trespasser came into their house out of a sudden and harshly shouted that they and their family must leave their house immediately because the house which they purchased with their hard-earned money is now being robbed and no longer belongs to them anymore. If this kind of situation has to happen to Tun, I think most probably Tun will have to ask your bodyguard to pull out a handgun and shoot at this crazy fella promptly on the spot! Will Tun still want to waste much time trying to ask him for an apology?
Onlooker
Tun's comment is listed here for reference:
"14. Perhaps people should wonder why during the time of the previous four Prime Ministers, who were also Presidents of UMNO, there were no such utterances by UMNO members. And there were practically none from the non-Malays either."
Dear Tun,
Maybe you should walk a mile in our shoes.
You are a great leader, I was and am a great admirer of your intellect.
But I would still disagree with your race discriminating policies. Malaysia would have been richer and more developed if UMNO had not played the race card at every opportunity. If all Malaysians were educated then all Malays would have been educated but UMNO choose to use education as political tool instead of the country's development tool.
Not many Chinese are rich, nor do we demand to be all rich, only the equal opportunity to try. No, actually only equal educational opportunities, because most of us cannot afford to pay for own children tertiary education.
To say that the Chinese community is rich because of the Francis Yeohs and Vincent Tans of this country is insulting, these rich Chinese are not giving special Amanah Saham shares to the Chinese community nor do they share their fortune with anybody I know.
The Chinese was quite happy doing business among themselves and overseas. As a result the Chinese has become quite a reclusive community, treating the government almost like a foreign power that you need to beg and bribe to make a living. But now, many even see this livelihood threaten.
We recognize the Malay's special position in the constitution but do not spit on us after you have taken our rice bowl.
UMNO's Ketuanan or Ketuahan Melayu policies are supported by very racist politicians and a very racist BTM programs. Just look at the UiTM reaction. Its an addiction.
Such hatred from the Malay community as a result of these politics and program, is frightening and frustrating the non-Malays.
On top of that we are seeing the government restructure the banking industry, auto industry, oil & Gas, transportation .... to completely favor the Malays. The Malays are also now represented and sometime dominate in many professional fields as bankers, stock brokers, lawyers, accountants, doctors, engineers, professors, teachers. The behavior of the GLCs and the civil service are almost like UiTM. The only industry that Chinese still dominate is the retail trade (only in non-Malay areas) and the SMIs.
There are as many rich Malays today as there are Chinese, if not more. Shouldn't the emphasis now be helping the poor instead of one single community. Even then I am sure the Malay communities will still receive the biggest portion but then it will be fair.
I have lived the bulk of my life, I have no ambitions for myself, only the wish for a nation that does not threaten my children or their children just because they are a minority in this country.
I hope that after reading all this comments, you will truly understand the what is happening in this country.
If the government gives everyone the chance of an tertiary education and the freedom to pursue his dreams. The freedom to worship our gods and built our temples and churches. The Chinese in general do not care if all the government contracts goes to Malay contractors as long as we all benefit from the results.
Dr Mahathir appears devastated. Based on his prognosis, BN and Umno are doomed. For BN to survive, Umno needs to become strong again. This is not going to happen with Badawi, Najib, Razaleigh, Muhyddin, Hishamudin, Khairy or anyone in the current Umno leadership. No one in the current leadership has the capability, political acumen and imagination to even lead a healthy Umno, leave alone a dying one.
Umno needs a truly strong leader for it to recover and continue to rule Malaysia. There is only one person in the world who fits this call - Mahathir. He will not be able to achieve much through blogging and complaining on the side lines because he is outside Umno and has no direct control or power.
He has to get into the thick of things and sort out the problems affecting Umno. He can’t make change by being outside Umno and blogging on the Internet. He needs to be back in Umno. He needs to become the strong leader, he once was.
He has to do this now as Anwar is on the threshold of becoming the next PM and sending Umno, Mahathir, Badawi and others into oblivion. How can he do this? Through a by-election like how Anwar did recently.
Just like how Wan Azizah vacated the Permatang Pauh seat for Anwar, Mukhriz should vacate his Jerlun parliamentary seat for his father to contest and be back in Parliament to resume the leadership of Umno and BN.
There is absolutely no doubt that Mahathir will win any by-election in his old constituency, just like Anwar did in Permatang Pauh. In fact, given his stature, experience, influence and the strong support he is receiving from Umno members who are unhappy with Badawi, Mahathir should not only be able repeat Anwar’s recent huge victory but also ace it in Jerlun.
Such a strong win by Mahathir will help to neutralise, if not overshadow, Anwar’s big win to bring back support for Umno and revive the dying party. With such a strong madate from Jerlun, Mahathir can rightfully resume the premiership once again, restore BN/Umno's rule and hand over the premiership in a few years' time to someone in whom he has full trust.
Tun, are you bold enough to take up this challenge or are you just going to sit around and blog like me and thousands of other ordinary Malaysians with little influence and no power?
Thanks for the antidote to relieve the allergic nerves in the country we love.
Hi TUN
Kita orang melayu perlu bansa lain untuk membangunkan negara kita, masing2 ada kelebihan sebatang lidi mudah patah tapi serumpun lidi payah dipatahkan.
Pemimpin bijak perlu tau bila masa nak tarik rambut dlm tepung jgn asyik bagi betis.
Semua org dlm malaysia ada hak kita semua nak hidup aman makmur jadi jgn sbb nili setitik yg jadi ketua semua susu takleh rasa.
Semoga kita jgn terantuk baru nak tengadah.